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Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#31
> I think the whole “lifehacking” thing is retarded

Regardless of your general "help me understand the Bay" stance, this a HUGE negative blaming statement that originates from you alone.

I live in the Bay. I regularly modify my diet to see how it affects my health. I found out I'm allergic to gluten by testing its effects on making my ears ring, stomach ache, etc. Riding my bike clears my mind like nothing else. Why I do this, how I do it, talk about it, terms I use to refer to it and pretty much anything else I choose to do is up to me, and shouldn't be judged by you unless it affects you directly, even if you did read it somewhere. Which it doesn't, and you didn't.

I hear you when you want other opinions about the culture here, but as others have stated, the Bay Area has a massive number of people in the technology scene. We have compassion, asshats, brilliance, idiocy, over-achievers, under-achievers, massive revenue generators, massive cash burners, and everything in between. All from direct observations, FWIW.

If you want a good experience, then let all your expectations go and don't worry about it. Seek out meaningful conversations and experiences and let what will be, be.

In other words, come live in the moment, for a moment is all that you have here.

I hope your stay is an enjoyable one. I, for one, love it here.

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#32
post #19

I know exactly where you are coming from: a few years ago I decided I was going to move to either SF or NYC from socal. I interviewed at a bunch of places and spent time socializing in both cities, e.g. going to parties, meeting friends of friends, etc. It was an involved decision that I made carefully. In the end, NYC was a no-brainer for me. I consistently found the bay area has developed an homogenous culture that…

Living in SF now and have been living in California my whole life, I find the dreaded "so, what do you do?" question something that gets asked during a first time encounter when they've run out of interesting things to talk about. No one likes it, but the best way to answer is to talk about how much you enjoy what you do, not so much the details, otherwise the conversation dies very quickly, no matter your place in the "hierarchy."

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#33
TL/DR: I'm pretty sure everyone in [insert group/place] are a specific kind of asshole and I'm looking for a different kind of asshole to surround myself with. Please help!

You're talking about close to a million people, maybe chill the fuck out and show up with more of an open mind. Or like, don't.

[Edit]

Uggh. I should probably leave the comment alone, but I feel bad about it so I'll try to add something more constructive. Like every large-enough subculture, the startup-scene tropes have some truth to them but it's still a very large and diverse set of people and ideas. If anything, I feel like the tendency toward a hyped up monoculture has receded in the last couple of years (somewhere in 2011 it seemed like we hit peak-food-photo-founder-rockstar).

I don't live in SF but I work for a startup there and travel up there a lot. All told, it's a really incredible city and while there's plenty about the startup culture to find fault in, it remains true that there are is an incredible density of really smart and motivated people there passionately working on stuff.

No apparent shortage of meat or beer, either. You can probably go a full day without being forced to eat tofu.

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#34
I think you're a bit caught up in stereotypes, to be honest. There aren't many people who are all those things you think you dislike. If you meet someone cool, and then they happen to be a vegan, what's your plan? Argue that they suck?

I'd say, you are going to somewhere new. Keep an open mind. You might find out you like some of this stuff.

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#36

> I think the whole “lifehacking” thing is retarded Regardless of your general "help me understand the Bay" stance, this a HUGE negative blaming statement that originates from you alone. I live in the Bay. I regularly modify my diet to see how it affects my health. I found out I'm allergic to gluten by testing its effects on making my ears ring, stomach ache, etc. Riding my bike clears my mind like nothing else. Why…

Finding out how food and exercise affect your body and adjusting your behavior accordingly is very different from what "lifehack" is in popular media.

Even if we ignore the bad ideas and generally superfluous stuff branded as "lifehacks," the bare-bones of lifehacking is often steeped in the smug self-righteousness of the Bay that is a throughline in OP's post.

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#37
post #8

>>My intention isn’t to be a hater. People are different, cultures are different, that’s fine :-) >> I dislike people who call themselves hackers, rockstars, ninjas, nomads etc. I don’t care about yoga, organic food, vegans, feminists or spirit animals. I dislike overuse of the word “community” and I think the whole “lifehacking” thing is retarded.

Actively being a "hater" is very different from politely listing groups or ideologies that you are trying to avoid.

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#38

> I think the whole “lifehacking” thing is retarded Regardless of your general "help me understand the Bay" stance, this a HUGE negative blaming statement that originates from you alone. I live in the Bay. I regularly modify my diet to see how it affects my health. I found out I'm allergic to gluten by testing its effects on making my ears ring, stomach ache, etc. Riding my bike clears my mind like nothing else. Why…

Finding out how food and exercise affect your body and adjusting your behavior accordingly is very different from what "lifehack" is in popular media. Even if we ignore the bad ideas and generally superfluous stuff branded as "lifehacks," the bare-bones of lifehacking is often steeped in the smug self-righteousness of the Bay that is a throughline in OP's post.

A right click and click on define divulges lifehacking as "a strategy or technique adopted in order to manage one's time and daily activities in a more efficient way". Given gluten is a drain on my brain, and riding at a certain time increases my clarity levels for creating, I'm going to strongly disagree with you here.

I also have NFC tags on my desk and near the front door to speed the time it takes to configure my phone for the commute to the city.

That there are some who are smug about their personal experiences practicing things I practice is up to them. Expecting to ONLY find smugness because people in the Bay (may) practice lifehacking is simply setting negative expectations. Nothing more, nothing less.

Re: Ask HN: I’m visiting Bay Area and I dislike the “hacker” culture. Please help

#40
post #18

Don't worry; people in the Bay Area are annoyed by people who call themselves rockstars and ninjas too. As for what you're reading online, of course some people are like that, but in my experience they are for the most part not the interesting ones anyway. The best people I know don't care for fashions. How are meat, beer, and broad discussions antithetical to your perception of how people in the Bay Area live?

> How are meat, beer, and broad discussions antithetical to your perception of how people in the Bay Area live? I'm not saying it's antithetical, I was just trying to describe myself.

Oh, all right, I misunderstood.
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