Apple goes to war with the BBC

Post by debacle » Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 1:48 PM UTC

dalke wrote: post #7

rtpg wrote: post #2

>Williams countered that Apple has tracked the weekly hours of over one million workers within its supply chain, and that its suppliers have achieved an average of 93 per cent compliance with the 60-hour workweek limit this year. 60 hour workweeks... plus "93% compliance" is not exactly reassuring.

It would be nice to compare those numbers to that of other companies or organizations. But even if you stay strictly with US companies, is it possible to find the compliance rate for Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Red Hat, etc., much less the various game studios known for overworking their employees?

Post by hawleyal » Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 1:51 PM UTC

dalke wrote: post #7

rtpg wrote: post #2

>Williams countered that Apple has tracked the weekly hours of over one million workers within its supply chain, and that its suppliers have achieved an average of 93 per cent compliance with the 60-hour workweek limit this year. 60 hour workweeks... plus "93% compliance" is not exactly reassuring.

It would be nice to compare those numbers to that of other companies or organizations. But even if you stay strictly with US companies, is it possible to find the compliance rate for Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Red Hat, etc., much less the various game studios known for overworking their employees?

Post by funkybro » Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 1:56 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #9

swombat wrote: post #6

The problem with Apple criticism is a lot of it seems full of cheap shots and unfair framing, like this Panorama report. That makes it more difficult to tell when a criticism of Apple is genuine, because every idiot journalist looking for a controversial story can write a story about something Apple is doing not well enough and get away with it, since everyone seems to love to hate on Apple. So if Apple really is up…

Reminds me a little of how people somehow don't believe McDonalds when they reveal their food sources. Because people love to hate on them, McDs and Apple have higher standards than their competitors.

Post by TeMPOraL » Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 2:00 PM UTC

hawleyal wrote: post #13

dalke wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice to compare those numbers to that of other companies or organizations. But even if you stay strictly with US companies, is it possible to find the compliance rate for Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Red Hat, etc., much less the various game studios known for overworking their employees?

I think your argument equates to "Everyone else is doing it mom, why can't I?". It was as much bullshit when you were a kid as it is now.

Post by venomsnake » Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 2:01 PM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #5

I would love to see if they could find a multinational company WITHOUT issues like this in their supply chain - I imagine none exist. (I still support "exposé" programs like this since people need to be reminded what the actual cost of their toys are - but they should cast a broader net)