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Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by simi_ »

bombtrack wrote: post #7

I posted this yesterday in the thread about the Rust-written window manager, but it's relevant here as well. There are plenty of apps that provide varying levels of window-manager functionality to OS X. I would try a couple out and see which feels right to you. I have tried most of them, and personally prefer Moom. http://manytricks.com/moom/ http://mizage.com/divvy/ http://ianyh.com/amethyst/ http://spectacleapp.com…

I swear by Spectacle. After trying a number of other wms, this is the one I ended up using for more than a year now. It strikes a good balance for me between features and simplicity, and the keyboard shortcuts are intuitive and don't clash with other apps (like iTerm, Fantastical, etc).

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by rsync »

pmoriarty wrote: post #29
TkTech wrote: post #20

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Who told you that? You could do it with just applescript if you wanted to, just need to enable accessibility so you can control windows and the mouse.

I've seen this "limitation" mentioned in various online forums, such as the following. "Mac OS X interface and ergonomy is (as said by apple) not 'compatible' with the focus-follow mouse mode. Why ? Because a single application interface is split into lots of different elements. For exemple, you use an application like photoshop or word, you'll have different panels floating around the main window. With sloppy focus…

""The fundamental problem with sloppy focus on the Mac is that the menu bar is always associated with the currently focused application; if you had sloppy focus, accessing the menu bar for a specific application would be supremely difficult.""

Well that's the real trick. It would be difficult to access the menu bar if you had a mess of weirdly placed and sized windows scattered around, like the OSX UI paradigm assumes you do.

But if you have a tiling window manager, and especially if some of those tiles are full height, it's quite easy. Just put your mouse in the window you need, and then go straight up to the menu bar.

Yes, once in a while you need to cross some extra real estate with the mouse in order to "dodge" a UI element you don't want to switch focus to, but it's really no problem.

I've been using tiling UI and focus-follows-mouse on snow leopard since 2009. I couldn't work any other way.

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by cmsj »

tjl wrote: post #57
0942v8653 wrote: post #32

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Mjolnir might still be worth trying. I'm not sure how you got Slate to work with Mavericks, but Mjolnir is very similar, under active development, and has Lua instead of JS as its scripting language.

Unfortunately, the lead developer has decided to work on a closed-source alternative to Mjolnir so a new fork has been made.

said fork is Hammerspoon - http://www.hammerspoon.org/

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by cmsj »

AndrewHampton wrote: post #53
ianyh wrote: post #37

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I would 100% recommend Mjolnir as an actively-developed Slate alternative. sdegutis has a solid history of writing great window management stuff.

Mjolnir isn't actually under active development anymore. A few months ago sdegutis decided to write a closed source alternative which has not yet been released. The mjolnir community does have an actively developed fork though called hammerspoon. http://www.hammerspoon.org/ I would recommend either of them, but hammerspoon has a smoother onboarding process.

Thanks :)

We'd love to get feedback about Hammerspoon, or suggestions for plugins we could add.

Feel free to drop by #hammerspoon on Freenode, or file issues at https://github.com/Hammerspoon/hammerspoon

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by chriswarbo »

DevMonkey wrote: post #48

For Windows I just stumbled across MaxTo ( http://maxto.net/ ) I've been using it for a couple of days and I'm really impressed.

In a previous life I used http://code.google.com/p/python-windows-tiler/ for Windows. It's not the most stable application though.

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by ecnahc515 »

simi_ wrote: post #61
bombtrack wrote: post #7

I posted this yesterday in the thread about the Rust-written window manager, but it's relevant here as well. There are plenty of apps that provide varying levels of window-manager functionality to OS X. I would try a couple out and see which feels right to you. I have tried most of them, and personally prefer Moom. http://manytricks.com/moom/ http://mizage.com/divvy/ http://ianyh.com/amethyst/ http://spectacleapp.com…

I swear by Spectacle. After trying a number of other wms, this is the one I ended up using for more than a year now. It strikes a good balance for me between features and simplicity, and the keyboard shortcuts are intuitive and don't clash with other apps (like iTerm, Fantastical, etc).

You should try BetterTouchTool. It can do everything spectacle can, but has a lot more features, and support for trackpad gestures, and other nice things. It even has draggable window snapping like Windows/Ubuntu Unity.

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by ianyh »

AndrewHampton wrote: post #53
ianyh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would 100% recommend Mjolnir as an actively-developed Slate alternative. sdegutis has a solid history of writing great window management stuff.

Mjolnir isn't actually under active development anymore. A few months ago sdegutis decided to write a closed source alternative which has not yet been released. The mjolnir community does have an actively developed fork though called hammerspoon. http://www.hammerspoon.org/ I would recommend either of them, but hammerspoon has a smoother onboarding process.

Fascinating. I hadn't realized Mjolnir wasn't under development anymore. I'm glad to see the community is keeping it going, though.

Re: Amethyst – A tiling window manager for OS X

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Post by simi_ »

ecnahc515 wrote: post #67
simi_ wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear by Spectacle. After trying a number of other wms, this is the one I ended up using for more than a year now. It strikes a good balance for me between features and simplicity, and the keyboard shortcuts are intuitive and don't clash with other apps (like iTerm, Fantastical, etc).

You should try BetterTouchTool. It can do everything spectacle can, but has a lot more features, and support for trackpad gestures, and other nice things. It even has draggable window snapping like Windows/Ubuntu Unity.

That's what I used for about a year before Spectacle, but it's too heavyweight for my taste.
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