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Four Areas of Legal Ripe for Disruption by Smart Startups

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I am quite interested to know more about Judicata. It was cofounded by Blake Masters (coauthor of Zero to One). Anyone have any info on it?

Last I spoke with the gang---unfortunately, some time ago---they were working on legal search. Great group of people. They've been stealthy of late. FYI, Blake also blogged the notes on Peter Thiel's start-up lectures at Stanford.

> Blake also blogged the notes on Peter Thiel's start-up lectures at Stanford.

Which became source material for Zero to One.

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The article mentions some interesting things, but I have a few quibbles: > But even with today’s modern communication tools, both customer experience and lawyer workflow have remained stagnant. At a large firm, legal practice is unrecognizable compared to even 10-15 years ago. Everything is electronic: filing and docketing, document collection/scanning/OCR, legal research, document management (DMS + version control).…

One lawyer I talk to says that every single filing he makes at court has to be paper. He bought a wheely suitcase to carry all this documentation around to court. If everything is electronic, his firm and the judges they deal with didn't get the message...

I recently went through dealing with some standard legal agreements for a film project. I never met our lawyer in person, it was all telephone and email.

But when it came to signing documents, that had to be done on paper. And notarized, which was a simple trip to the UPS store. And the originals mailed around, which was a hassle. The parties involved don't even all live in the same hemisphere, so there were some annoying shipping times.

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The article mentions some interesting things, but I have a few quibbles: > But even with today’s modern communication tools, both customer experience and lawyer workflow have remained stagnant. At a large firm, legal practice is unrecognizable compared to even 10-15 years ago. Everything is electronic: filing and docketing, document collection/scanning/OCR, legal research, document management (DMS + version control).…

One lawyer I talk to says that every single filing he makes at court has to be paper. He bought a wheely suitcase to carry all this documentation around to court. If everything is electronic, his firm and the judges they deal with didn't get the message...

This is jurisdiction-dependent.

I work for a very large company with three dozen law offices across the US. Listening to what is considered "normal" in other offices is always interesting. I am, unfortunately, in an office that practices in courts that are paper-dependent, even though there are rules that allow for electronic filing and service in many circumstances, all it takes is one litigant (or the judge!) to say "eh, I'm not comfortable with this, we're going to do this the old fashioned way" and we're done.

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Still seems quite a challenging disruption here. For one, you'd need to know some aspect of the lawyer's daily job and two you'd have to know how to sell to lawyers. The thing that scares me most is that these people also hold a trigger to suing the crap out of you because they can. It's exciting and scary at the same time.

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The article mentions some interesting things, but I have a few quibbles: > But even with today’s modern communication tools, both customer experience and lawyer workflow have remained stagnant. At a large firm, legal practice is unrecognizable compared to even 10-15 years ago. Everything is electronic: filing and docketing, document collection/scanning/OCR, legal research, document management (DMS + version control).…

> And computers still don't really understand either what issue you're looking for or what issue a case is about. So ancient technology (search for this word near that word) still rules the day. I think this is the key. The big revolution in legal research that I'm waiting for is the ability for the computer to understand something like: all cases where a) Claim X was brought as a counterclaim and not as the original…

FWIW: This is entirely solvable, it's just that the worlds search experts are not working on legal search, because it's not a large enough market :)

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I'd be interested in seeing an IDE for contract drafting. Or something like an Excel mapper that can show me how all the provisions and definitions in a contract are interrelated.

More lawyers would first have to understand that Microsoft Word is a regression from plain text first!

Contracts are code. Many of the concepts are similar (defined terms / includes / gotos) so the tools don't need to be changed that much. The challenge is getting others to adopt them.

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The article mentions some interesting things, but I have a few quibbles: > But even with today’s modern communication tools, both customer experience and lawyer workflow have remained stagnant. At a large firm, legal practice is unrecognizable compared to even 10-15 years ago. Everything is electronic: filing and docketing, document collection/scanning/OCR, legal research, document management (DMS + version control).…

Can you recommend software packages for case management at a small firm? I just started working with a small public-interest law firm that uses Google docs to track their caseload, an Access database to track their customers, and Drupal to run their public site, which is basically a library of case summaries and briefs. It's a mess.

They're looking for a solution that will let better manage case and customer info internally, and push public info to the public site. The idea is, only enter information once.

Custom development is of course an option, but first I want to see if there are any good available products. Are there any good off-the-shelf or hosted law firm management software packages that provide an API? Thanks for any advice you can spare.

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I currently write software for an e-discovery company. Most tasks that our software is expected to be able to perform are simple-sounding tasks, at first glance, such as ...

1. extracting documents from within other documents (attachments out of an email, files out of a zip, embedded excels out of a word doc, images out of a powerpoint, etc)

2. convert all said documents to some kind of standard media format so that the native viewing applications are not needed (all said document types to png, or pdf, or tif)

3. allow full-text searching across all electronic files

With these kinds of tasks available as an automated feature, the real product would just allow a bunch of attorneys to review the documents and apply tags or labels to them. Once they've gone through all the documents, there is generally an output from the system that summarizes their work and provides the relevant documents, notes, etc.

Over the years of writing this kind of software, we've encountered a never-ending amount of complicates with file types, feature requests, etc. The real complexities with this kind of software is making your software work for a large number of customers. Every customer probably has a different idea about what they want this kind of tool to do for them.

Re: Four Areas of Legal Ripe for Disruption by Smart Startups

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The article mentions some interesting things, but I have a few quibbles: > But even with today’s modern communication tools, both customer experience and lawyer workflow have remained stagnant. At a large firm, legal practice is unrecognizable compared to even 10-15 years ago. Everything is electronic: filing and docketing, document collection/scanning/OCR, legal research, document management (DMS + version control).…

Can you recommend software packages for case management at a small firm? I just started working with a small public-interest law firm that uses Google docs to track their caseload, an Access database to track their customers, and Drupal to run their public site, which is basically a library of case summaries and briefs. It's a mess. They're looking for a solution that will let better manage case and customer info int…

What's your document management story? If you're drafting/keeping track of versions in Google Docs,[1] then you should opt for a cloud-based solution that can integrate. Clio, RocketMatter, and MyCase are the big ones. They run $50/$70 per month per seat. Clio integrates with DropBox too. HoudiniESQ looks neat. Also has Google Docs integration. Self-hosted or cloud hosted. Pricing is pretty reasonable $1280 for ten licenses up front, then $192 per user per year.

[1] If they don't have a DMS story, they need one!

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