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We've been over this already. US just fucking doesnt care. Extradition treaties are ONE WAY. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/13/italy-c... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/31/obama-j... One of kidnapper/torturer fuckers was even apprehended, and despite international arrest warrant magically released very next day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Seldon_Lady Those people are un…
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The prestige hit and vulnerability to "letting down the troops" criticisms will ensure this doesn't happen.
The real reason is that they were carrying out the official policy of the US government. Just calling it CIA torture is minimizing how far up this went. Bush ordered it. DOD knew. DOJ not only knew, it crafted the governments tortured definition of torture. Congress knew. This isn't some off the books CIA wet team opp. It was planned and signed off at the highest levels. John Yoo, who wrote the torture memos, is a pr…
Keep in mind, 23 CIA employees have already been convicted and sentenced by an Italian court for a rendition operation. None of these people can be located.
I am not making a statement about if rendition is good or bad; I'm only addressing the Italian's hypocrisy.
Keep in mind, 23 CIA employees have already been convicted and sentenced by an Italian court for a rendition operation. None of these people can be located.
Oh they can be located, they are all living safely in US.
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The real reason is that they were carrying out the official policy of the US government. Just calling it CIA torture is minimizing how far up this went. Bush ordered it. DOD knew. DOJ not only knew, it crafted the governments tortured definition of torture. Congress knew. This isn't some off the books CIA wet team opp. It was planned and signed off at the highest levels. John Yoo, who wrote the torture memos, is a pr…
The fact that "24" with Jack Bauer routinely using torture ran for eight years with high ratings surely reflected the US public's tacit approval.
As I recall, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad and Dexter all rated pretty well too.
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The prestige hit and vulnerability to "letting down the troops" criticisms will ensure this doesn't happen.
The real reason is that they were carrying out the official policy of the US government. Just calling it CIA torture is minimizing how far up this went. Bush ordered it. DOD knew. DOJ not only knew, it crafted the governments tortured definition of torture. Congress knew. This isn't some off the books CIA wet team opp. It was planned and signed off at the highest levels. John Yoo, who wrote the torture memos, is a pr…
Also, I don't think election votes can ever count as approval; Congress has approval ratings nearing single digits yet incumbents usually get re-elected.
> The public supported it directly. We've known for a long what was going on.
We know what goes on in North Korea too but that doesn't mean we approve.
And the US is under ubiquitous NSA surveillance, along with domestic propaganda now legalized. Given this, I think the US people are, if anything, being subjugated by the government, not conspiring with it.
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The real reason is that they were carrying out the official policy of the US government. Just calling it CIA torture is minimizing how far up this went. Bush ordered it. DOD knew. DOJ not only knew, it crafted the governments tortured definition of torture. Congress knew. This isn't some off the books CIA wet team opp. It was planned and signed off at the highest levels. John Yoo, who wrote the torture memos, is a pr…
The fact that "24" with Jack Bauer routinely using torture ran for eight years with high ratings surely reflected the US public's tacit approval.
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The fact that "24" with Jack Bauer routinely using torture ran for eight years with high ratings surely reflected the US public's tacit approval.
24 is a terrifically evil show and helped sell torture by showing Jack routinely torture people and get the right actionable information every time without any ramifications.