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The drone war in Pakistan

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Re: The drone war in Pakistan

#3
"that mentality is what drives it all: if only we can get enough of these bastards, we’ll win the war"

You would have thought they would have learned something from the last couple of failed invasions - you don't win a war with technology. You win it with troops on the ground.

This is the Rumsfeld Doctrine in action, and again we'll see it fail.

Re: The drone war in Pakistan

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post #3

"that mentality is what drives it all: if only we can get enough of these bastards, we’ll win the war" You would have thought they would have learned something from the last couple of failed invasions - you don't win a war with technology. You win it with troops on the ground. This is the Rumsfeld Doctrine in action, and again we'll see it fail.

You win by showing the local populations that you are not the enemy. Every drone strike just gives more ammunition to extremists who are trying to convert more people to their cause.

Re: The drone war in Pakistan

#5
This was on a HN a while ago... not sure if all victims are "legitimate" and confirmed.

http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/

Take a look at 10/30/2006.. can you imagine being the one who pressed the button?? Will "I was just a soldier, I was just following up with orders" suffice in front of God? And if you happen to be an atheist, is it good enough justification to make you sleep well at night?

RIP.

Re: The drone war in Pakistan

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post #5

This was on a HN a while ago... not sure if all victims are "legitimate" and confirmed. http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ Take a look at 10/30/2006.. can you imagine being the one who pressed the button?? Will "I was just a soldier, I was just following up with orders" suffice in front of God? And if you happen to be an atheist, is it good enough justification to make you sleep well at night? RIP.

> http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/

That website is a perfect example of design over function. Irritating.

After watching that animation, I'm treated to one line about what happened in 2006.. no more information. No link to an article. Nothing.

So I don't really know what happened in 2006. But the site looked pretty.

Why not link to an article about the actual strike?

Re: The drone war in Pakistan

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post #3

"that mentality is what drives it all: if only we can get enough of these bastards, we’ll win the war" You would have thought they would have learned something from the last couple of failed invasions - you don't win a war with technology. You win it with troops on the ground. This is the Rumsfeld Doctrine in action, and again we'll see it fail.

No, it's not Rumsfeld doctrine; it's military industrial complex, whose goal is to sell as much military technology as possible (by using tax payers money).

This is not achieved by putting off fires, but rather by adding more oil to it; something that's been happening since even before W. Bush, and creation of ISIS (aka AlQuaida) is a great success on their part.

Re: The drone war in Pakistan

#8
There was a military saying once:

"If it's stupid and it works, than it is not stupid"

We should have the opposite

"No matter how smart it is, if it doesn't work it's stupid"

The US war machine is working brilliantly on the tactical level. And yet there is total inability of the military brass and the administration to deliver tangible geopolitical results. No idea why this is, but the war on terror is longer than WWI and II combined, and the world is quite possibly a worse place right now than in 2001.

Re: The drone war in Pakistan

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post #5

This was on a HN a while ago... not sure if all victims are "legitimate" and confirmed. http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ Take a look at 10/30/2006.. can you imagine being the one who pressed the button?? Will "I was just a soldier, I was just following up with orders" suffice in front of God? And if you happen to be an atheist, is it good enough justification to make you sleep well at night? RIP.

> http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ That website is a perfect example of design over function. Irritating. After watching that animation, I'm treated to one line about what happened in 2006.. no more information. No link to an article. Nothing. So I don't really know what happened in 2006. But the site looked pretty. Why not link to an article about the actual strike?

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Re: The drone war in Pakistan

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post #5

This was on a HN a while ago... not sure if all victims are "legitimate" and confirmed. http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ Take a look at 10/30/2006.. can you imagine being the one who pressed the button?? Will "I was just a soldier, I was just following up with orders" suffice in front of God? And if you happen to be an atheist, is it good enough justification to make you sleep well at night? RIP.

> http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ That website is a perfect example of design over function. Irritating. After watching that animation, I'm treated to one line about what happened in 2006.. no more information. No link to an article. Nothing. So I don't really know what happened in 2006. But the site looked pretty. Why not link to an article about the actual strike?

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