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Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

How would you respond to those who see you merely as somebody who just hops on the bandwagon, so to speak, quite frequently? Whether this perception is right or wrong, there are a number of prominent individuals within the open source community who are widely seen as rapidly jumping between trendy or hyped projects as they arise, to benefit from the exposure that this involvement can bring. I'm not passing any judgme…

Jumping between projects can also be seen as spreading knowledge and good practices around.

It would probably be much easier for them to stick to one thing but that wouldn't fully utilize them as a resource.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Yeah, I wonder how he manages to juggle all of that. What's your secret wycats? (I'm not really expecting there to be a single secret).

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

thanks for your answser! wycats rulez.You're doing a good job in TC39,cant wait to get the final spec.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I wonder how he manages to juggle all of that. What's your secret wycats? (I'm not really expecting there to be a single secret).

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

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Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I wonder how he manages to juggle all of that. What's your secret wycats? (I'm not really expecting there to be a single secret).

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

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Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Anyone care to mention the best reasons to start using/learning Rust? There must be a lot with these guys joining the team.

I replied to this a bit on the other HN thread on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8741987 TL;DR embedding small libraries with high-performance or low-memory requirements into programs written in high-level languages.

Yes, I have high hopes for Rust as an excellent way to write natively implemented functions I can call from Elixir or Erlang.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

How would you respond to those who see you merely as somebody who just hops on the bandwagon, so to speak, quite frequently? Whether this perception is right or wrong, there are a number of prominent individuals within the open source community who are widely seen as rapidly jumping between trendy or hyped projects as they arise, to benefit from the exposure that this involvement can bring. I'm not passing any judgme…

Not sure I agree with your analysis of the situation. W3C TAG, for example, was perceived as a stodgy, out of touch standards body. Yehuda led the charge to reform it and bring it back into the realm of practitioners.

In this case, I think you've got the causality mixed up. Projects often gain prominence thanks to the work Yehuda puts into them, as he's particularly good at articulating their strengths to a wider audience. It's not that he's bandwagon hopping—it's that he's helping to create the bandwagon. ;)

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Anyone care to mention the best reasons to start using/learning Rust? There must be a lot with these guys joining the team.

It allows you to predictably squeeze more out of your system than you ever could in a higher level language without the worry of weird undefined behavior, buffer overflows, use-after-frees or segfaults. It also has an expressive static type system that draws a great deal from ML and Haskell.

Do you have an opinion on how Rust compares to Go?

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #16

Anyone care to mention the best reasons to start using/learning Rust? There must be a lot with these guys joining the team.

I replied to this a bit on the other HN thread on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8741987 TL;DR embedding small libraries with high-performance or low-memory requirements into programs written in high-level languages.

How much C boilerplate of the Ruby C extensions API do you have to write to get Rust to interop with Ruby nicely? I've played with this a bit but still found myself writing a bit of C to wire it all together. It would be nice to hear your approach to this.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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How will this affect Yehuda's involvement with Ember? I'm kinda scared he will jump ship and leave it in the air. :/

Most definitely not. Ember (and its ecosystem) and Rust are the two open source projects that are currently consuming most of my time. I have easily spent as much time on the planning for Ember 2.0, HTMLBars, and Service Side Rendering as I have on Cargo and Rust over the past six months or so.

Also, both Ember and Rust are critical for my business (Skylight), and keeping them both strong and effective are key to my business interests ;)

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