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Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Anyone care to mention the best reasons to start using/learning Rust? There must be a lot with these guys joining the team.

I replied to this a bit on the other HN thread on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8741987 TL;DR embedding small libraries with high-performance or low-memory requirements into programs written in high-level languages.

Since you know a lot about web frameworks : do you see rust becoming a good language for building a modern web framework anytime soon ?

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

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Yeah, I wonder how he manages to juggle all of that. What's your secret wycats? (I'm not really expecting there to be a single secret).

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

Thanks, good to know. So I guess the real secret is being able to attract people to delegate work to.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I wonder how he manages to juggle all of that. What's your secret wycats? (I'm not really expecting there to be a single secret).

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

How would you respond to those who see you merely as somebody who just hops on the bandwagon, so to speak, quite frequently?

Whether this perception is right or wrong, there are a number of prominent individuals within the open source community who are widely seen as rapidly jumping between trendy or hyped projects as they arise, to benefit from the exposure that this involvement can bring.

I'm not passing any judgment, mind you. I personally don't care which projects you choose to get involved with. However, I do know that other people have noticed certain trends around how certain open source developers move among projects, and this does negatively affect the impressions these people have of these open source developers and the projects they get involved with.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

How would you respond to those who see you merely as somebody who just hops on the bandwagon, so to speak, quite frequently? Whether this perception is right or wrong, there are a number of prominent individuals within the open source community who are widely seen as rapidly jumping between trendy or hyped projects as they arise, to benefit from the exposure that this involvement can bring. I'm not passing any judgme…

Their loss. It's illogical to fault entrepreneurs or the businesses they are a part of simply because one of an entrepreneur's core strengths and motivators is bringing projects off the ground.

Likewise, it is illogical for faulting a developer for possessing that same drive when it comes to improving emerging technologies.

Squandering one's skills to appease some anti-progress group is silly.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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Anyone care to mention the best reasons to start using/learning Rust? There must be a lot with these guys joining the team.

It allows you to predictably squeeze more out of your system than you ever could in a higher level language without the worry of weird undefined behavior, buffer overflows, use-after-frees or segfaults. It also has an expressive static type system that draws a great deal from ML and Haskell.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

How would you respond to those who see you merely as somebody who just hops on the bandwagon, so to speak, quite frequently? Whether this perception is right or wrong, there are a number of prominent individuals within the open source community who are widely seen as rapidly jumping between trendy or hyped projects as they arise, to benefit from the exposure that this involvement can bring. I'm not passing any judgme…

Well, they've obviously never seen wycats' work. As for the others you speak of, time will tell.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

#29
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, a big part of this is slowly winding down earlier commitments over time. I joined TAG a couple years ago, and decided not to run again this year because I had largely achieved my original goals of changing the composition and mission of the TAG, and others can carry the torch forward. I also retired from the Rails team this year after a somewhat-long period of inactivity (from day-to-day decision…

How would you respond to those who see you merely as somebody who just hops on the bandwagon, so to speak, quite frequently? Whether this perception is right or wrong, there are a number of prominent individuals within the open source community who are widely seen as rapidly jumping between trendy or hyped projects as they arise, to benefit from the exposure that this involvement can bring. I'm not passing any judgme…

Bandwagon hopping is a Good Thing.

Furthermore, if you continue to bring something to the bandwagon, people will continue asking you to join them.

Re: Yehuda Katz and Steve Klabnik Are Joining the Rust Core Team

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post #21
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I replied to this a bit on the other HN thread on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8741987 TL;DR embedding small libraries with high-performance or low-memory requirements into programs written in high-level languages.

Since you know a lot about web frameworks : do you see rust becoming a good language for building a modern web framework anytime soon ?

from the parent answer i would presume he thinks it's more useful as a "bottleneck fixer" in high level web frameworks. (when the bottleneck is the language of the framework).

For example, you might implement a few parts of your rails app with rust to make them faster.

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