I really wish somebody would invent a torrent/magnet service distributed on a blockchain.
The Old Pirate Bay
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#52God Damn I love the internet!!! :)
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#53Maybe I'm saying something stupid, but couldn't the pirate bay be distributed as a torrent that is continually updated, and then you have a torrent client that can search the database?
I've been thinking about this. Let's say we have a small html file, which loads the javascript torrent library. You keep this file on your desktop (and give it to friends), maybe even bookmark it to make it easier to open.
The javascript fires off, accesses a torrent (hard-coded into the html itself), which loads content for the website... images, js files, everything. It also loads the data (I'm assuming it's small, but I've read claims that the data is only about 90 megs) into javascript storage, ready to be searched locally.
The torrent swarm itself could become so big that it'd be self-sustaining, no original seeders would need to stay online vulnerable to legal threats.
To have the torrent continually update with new content, you'd have to break the protocol (which, for this one purpose, might not be bad). But I don't understand it well enough to know this is even possible for certain. With magnet links, you first have to download the whole torrent file before you can start downloading, and it may not be possible to coax it into get the updated torrent file again.
Even if you can't do that, updates themselves might just be new torrents... we can run javascript on this page, so we can be clever and have it derive new torrents/hashes to download. It would be good if anyone could update the data, for instance, adding torrents (though how to police that so they don't add junk or poison the thing... not sure).
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#54The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Considering how longs its been down for, it is much more likely that they found the actual backends this time.
It shouldn't take this long to get a new load balancer up.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's a clever idea but torrents are basically just content hashes, so they can't be updated by nature. In fact TPB was already not serving torrent files in large part; every torrent with more than a handful of peers is stored as a magnet link, which literally is just a content hash. I'm positive there's something rather clever to be done there, but we can't put it into a torrent.
Actually that's not true anymore : http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html .
That's not updating the content of a torrent, that's updating a torrent file given a URL and a signature. It's not even BitTorrent, more like embedded RSS. Doesn't really help us out here.
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#56The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Considering how longs its been down for, it is much more likely that they found the actual backends this time. It shouldn't take this long to get a new load balancer up.
Speculation is that it's the load balancer; they have 21 VPS all over the world: torrentfreak.com/can-pirate-bay-make-comeback-141210/
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically, centralization is needed for deleting fakes, viruses, wrongly labeled stuff. Totally decentralized approach will have all the negatives KaZaA had in the 00s ("matrix.avi.exe").
Decentralized with quality control would be a hard but interesting problem. You could do upvotes/downvotes using cryptographic signatures use a little web-based authority to let people know whose signatures are reputable.
It's not entirely implausible that authorities might attack the certificate provider. It's a single point of failure... the MPAA decides to fuck with it, gets them shut down, and suddenly no one can filter comments anymore?
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#58The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Seems to be back. http://thepiratebay.cr/
That's a clone using old database like OP's post.
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#59Maybe I'm saying something stupid, but couldn't the pirate bay be distributed as a torrent that is continually updated, and then you have a torrent client that can search the database?
I've been thinking about this. Let's say we have a small html file, which loads the javascript torrent library. You keep this file on your desktop (and give it to friends), maybe even bookmark it to make it easier to open. The javascript fires off, accesses a torrent (hard-coded into the html itself), which loads content for the website... images, js files, everything. It also loads the data (I'm assuming it's small,…
The issue is that BitTorrent as a protocol converts hashes into files, but it's got no mechanism to associate a hash with some other identity. That means you don't need trust to operate it, but conversely there's no way make changes to a torrent after it's been seeded.
A system like Bitcoin+BitTorrent could do what you're describing, with Bitcoin filling in the missing distributed hash identification function. I don't really follow the distributed web scene, but I'm sure that's an area of active research.
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#60Ok I searched a few porn movies to verify whether they have it completely or not. Glad to tell you that it's really the 'Pirate Bay'
Some functionality is missing. E.g. no users, thus no way to see what else that user has uploaded. On PB some uploaders maintained rather interesting personal collections.