https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-moves-to-the-cloud-becom...
Sooo, I guess it wasn't "virtually invulnerable to police raids".
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#42Ok I searched a few porn movies to verify whether they have it completely or not. Glad to tell you that it's really the 'Pirate Bay'
Hey Adnan, might not be a good idea to tie your porn habbits quite so publicly with all your linkedIn and social media info so clearly visible. Just a heads up from a fellow developer who's done plenty of dumb shit :-)
Are you suggesting that there's anything wrong with an adult viewing filmed consensual sex acts between other adults?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decentralized with quality control would be a hard but interesting problem. You could do upvotes/downvotes using cryptographic signatures use a little web-based authority to let people know whose signatures are reputable.
I've been thinking about this problem, too. (Reputation in a decentralised & anonymous web.) What would stop someone from creating fake users? They could easily form a realistic 'social network' over time, giving them some legitimacy. Together a large number of fake users can defeat any form of voting / quality control. I find this stuff very interesting, let me know if I'm missing an obvious approach.
Well, obviously PGP has the whole "web of trust" thing but that's a bit hard to use. You can use crypto to "sign" things, so simply "signing" your upvotes and downvotes attaches a person to a vote. Then you let users upvote and downvote other users building a web of trust and a black-list. Signed-upvotes and downvotes would get passed around in the swarm itself as content.
The hard part is the new-user bootstrap. They need a starting list of trusted people - as they pull down information from the swarm, they get a good picture of the "web of trust". Then they can look for signed upvotes or downvotes on any content they're researching - that is, instead of just looking for the latest Game of Thrones vid, the system also looks for all upvotes and downvotes about each particular copy of the latest Game of Thrones vid and compares it against the user's personal "web of trust" to know which votes are respectable. The user sees this as just "here's the most popular copy".
Of course, passing around millions of upvotes and downvotes P2P would not be an easy problem.
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#44The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Legitimate question: Cash cow for whom? With everyone in jail, who gets the money? Did they take salaries before? Where is this money stored? (I imagine freezing assets is easier than taking down a website; with money you have to play within the system)
Almost all the money went towards purchasing equipment and legal fees. I don't think anyone in particular (except maybe the lawyers) got rich off the site.
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#45The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Legitimate question: Cash cow for whom? With everyone in jail, who gets the money? Did they take salaries before? Where is this money stored? (I imagine freezing assets is easier than taking down a website; with money you have to play within the system)
They handed it over to Sweden's Pirate Party allegedly. I forget the exact article, but it was over at TorrentFreak: http://torrentfreak.com
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#46Maybe I'm saying something stupid, but couldn't the pirate bay be distributed as a torrent that is continually updated, and then you have a torrent client that can search the database?
Yeah, it's a clever idea but torrents are basically just content hashes, so they can't be updated by nature.
In fact TPB was already not serving torrent files in large part; every torrent with more than a handful of peers is stored as a magnet link, which literally is just a content hash. I'm positive there's something rather clever to be done there, but we can't put it into a torrent.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically, centralization is needed for deleting fakes, viruses, wrongly labeled stuff. Totally decentralized approach will have all the negatives KaZaA had in the 00s ("matrix.avi.exe").
Decentralized with quality control would be a hard but interesting problem. You could do upvotes/downvotes using cryptographic signatures use a little web-based authority to let people know whose signatures are reputable.
Maybe a vote weighting that gradually gets heavier, the more honest your account is measured - you are observed upvoting good content, and flagging spam or viruses (imagine if the top HN commenters votes counted more than regular commenters...)? And rapid banning for those who upvote spam. Maybe you unlock additional feaures (like HNs downvote ability as you level up with karma). It might create a "race to the top" if you published a "karma list" of the top accounts... sort of like HN has with the leaders list https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders
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#48The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Legitimate question: Cash cow for whom? With everyone in jail, who gets the money? Did they take salaries before? Where is this money stored? (I imagine freezing assets is easier than taking down a website; with money you have to play within the system)
They were bought out some time ago. It's current owners are an anonymous shell corporation.[1]
[1] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/08/pirate-bay-sale-s...
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#49Maybe I'm saying something stupid, but couldn't the pirate bay be distributed as a torrent that is continually updated, and then you have a torrent client that can search the database?
Yeah, it's a clever idea but torrents are basically just content hashes, so they can't be updated by nature. In fact TPB was already not serving torrent files in large part; every torrent with more than a handful of peers is stored as a magnet link, which literally is just a content hash. I'm positive there's something rather clever to be done there, but we can't put it into a torrent.
Actually that's not true anymore : http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html.
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#50The Pirate Bay will be back. They just had their load balancer taken out. All this doom and gloom about how the TPB is gone for good is ridiculous. It's a cash cow, it's not going to go away anytime soon. I knew something was wrong with TPB before it was announced that it was raided and subsequently taken down. I noticed an uptick in in sessions on google analytics for my movie meta-torrent search engine https://movi…
Seems to be back. http://thepiratebay.cr/