Higher metabolism without changing food habbits, wouldn't this be awesome for fastfood?
People still getting fat, but they buy more from now on?
McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
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Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#92Am I wrong, or does this contradict all the recent research about fat actually not causing obesity. http://www.businessinsider.com/experts-eat-more-fat-2014-10
I was very surprised about fat blaming in this article too. Its common knowledge* that high amounts of hydrocarbons in the died decrease metabolism. When you eat food that is easy to burn your body switches to that and stops trying to burn stored fat. *not 'grandmas wisdom', but something you can test on yourself with Ketogenic diet in 1-2 months.
I think it was Grandma's wisdom - or at least common knowledge.
As I've commented before, from a Tolstoy novel:
eschew[ed] farinaceous and sweet dishes..
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#93Am I wrong, or does this contradict all the recent research about fat actually not causing obesity. http://www.businessinsider.com/experts-eat-more-fat-2014-10
I was very surprised about fat blaming in this article too. Its common knowledge* that high amounts of hydrocarbons in the died decrease metabolism. When you eat food that is easy to burn your body switches to that and stops trying to burn stored fat. *not 'grandmas wisdom', but something you can test on yourself with Ketogenic diet in 1-2 months.
I think the word you were looking for was "carbohydrates", not "hydrocarbons". They're not the same thing.
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#94I don't really understand the comments here, and especially on the article itself, deriding this research because "people should just get off their butts and exercise" or similar. I'm sure the researchers wouldn't dispute the benefits of exercise. But if there really is a safe, effective way to improve the metabolism and make it easier to keep off fat, why exactly is that a bad thing? (Naturally the research is far t…
You probably inherently understand that obesity is widely considered a moral disease. Therefore, the only solution to a moral failing is trial by fire. So, by recasting obesity as something OTHER than a moral failing, well you are removing the very thing that lets a portion of society feel superior to others. And you can't do that.
Technically removing the consequences of gluttony is likely to increase demand for food products and therefore increase its price, reducing available food supply and increasing world hunger. Food supply can be temporarily boosted by farming the land more intensively, but in the long run will also be detrimental to food production. Until our food production can be dramatically increased with minimal effect on the environment, I'm against it.
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
You probably inherently understand that obesity is widely considered a moral disease. Therefore, the only solution to a moral failing is trial by fire. So, by recasting obesity as something OTHER than a moral failing, well you are removing the very thing that lets a portion of society feel superior to others. And you can't do that.
Technically removing the consequences of gluttony is likely to increase demand for food products and therefore increase its price, reducing available food supply and increasing world hunger. Food supply can be temporarily boosted by farming the land more intensively, but in the long run will also be detrimental to food production. Until our food production can be dramatically increased with minimal effect on the envi…
You're doubling down on the "obesity is a moral disease" stance here ("gluttony" is explicitly a moral judgement). I've come to suspect that it really isn't as simple as "lack of self-control": too many people I know have gained significant weight due to medications or medical conditions, or despite sincere and sustained efforts to bring their weight under control. (I'm also quite intrigued by claims that even broad populations of lab animals in the US have gained weight over the same period that the US population has, despite their carefully managed diets and activity levels.)
Once something is this common, it just stops being reasonable to blame the individuals rather than broader factors. (In much the same way, if half of my students fail an exam, I'm pretty sure that's not entirely their fault: I clearly screwed something up in the teaching or the testing.)
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
You probably inherently understand that obesity is widely considered a moral disease. Therefore, the only solution to a moral failing is trial by fire. So, by recasting obesity as something OTHER than a moral failing, well you are removing the very thing that lets a portion of society feel superior to others. And you can't do that.
Technically removing the consequences of gluttony is likely to increase demand for food products and therefore increase its price, reducing available food supply and increasing world hunger. Food supply can be temporarily boosted by farming the land more intensively, but in the long run will also be detrimental to food production. Until our food production can be dramatically increased with minimal effect on the envi…
Vaccination increases lifespan which leads to increased resource consumption, and the planet just can not afford it. So until we figure out how to transcend into beams of light I'm against it.
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Technically removing the consequences of gluttony is likely to increase demand for food products and therefore increase its price, reducing available food supply and increasing world hunger. Food supply can be temporarily boosted by farming the land more intensively, but in the long run will also be detrimental to food production. Until our food production can be dramatically increased with minimal effect on the envi…
You're doubling down on the "obesity is a moral disease" stance here ("gluttony" is explicitly a moral judgement). I've come to suspect that it really isn't as simple as "lack of self-control": too many people I know have gained significant weight due to medications or medical conditions, or despite sincere and sustained efforts to bring their weight under control. (I'm also quite intrigued by claims that even broad…
Obesity is absolutely a moral disease, in the sense that you don't get fat without eating yourself fat, as well as a disease of our society, in terms of our society producing foods that encourage people to eat themselves fat.
Broader factors certainly share the blame, but so do individuals. It is possible for almost anyone to be thin in today's society, in the same way that it was possible for almost anyone to get fat a few hundred years ago (given access to plentiful enough food).
Saying "it's not just down to the individuals" is fair and true. Saying "it's not down to the individuals at all, how dare you imply that it might be" is obviously wrong-headed.
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#98I don't really understand the comments here, and especially on the article itself, deriding this research because "people should just get off their butts and exercise" or similar. I'm sure the researchers wouldn't dispute the benefits of exercise. But if there really is a safe, effective way to improve the metabolism and make it easier to keep off fat, why exactly is that a bad thing? (Naturally the research is far t…
I actually find it surprising here given the large number of people here sympathetic to the transhuman/singularity/quantified-self/life-hacker type ideals. Does it not occur to them that findings like this, combined with a good diet and exercise, are the most likely candidates for actually living longer and staying healthy further into your old age? I don't care what lazy people will "get away with", I want these adv…
It brings us one step closer to The Culture.
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm saying one should be aware of what I think are undisclosed ulterior motives, especially the monetary one. Furthermore, its easy to draw a conclusion from a sample size of one. I could just as easily find a sample size of one for who this diet would not cure T1D and start "exposing the myth" about paleo diets, but it would be shitty science... Also I am skeptical of Paleo diets in general because historical scient…
What you just did is called the Paleo Strawman, its where people who don't understand the Paleo diet claim things such as "oh, its only about eating what was available in the Paleo and Neolithic eras", which has never been true. What Paleo is, is a large scale research project to figure out why such a diet worked so well for humans, what parts worked, what parts didn't, and how we can scientifically engineer a better…
No, I said for example. There are other examples of counter claims to Paleo. I wasn't saying that research was the end all, but you can't say its a Paleo Strawman when there is a very large segment, even in "clinical research", that believe one of the strengths is because "its what our ancestors ate". I was simply providing a single point of counter claims, not making a full statement, so saying I was using a strawman is taking my entire statement out of context....
Not to mention, you say "such a diet worked so well", except we have no proof that the classical "paleo" diet very closely resembles our ancestors or even that (poorly) mimicking their diet would produce the same results in modern day and the research I linked is an academic counter claim to that very statement.
Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're doubling down on the "obesity is a moral disease" stance here ("gluttony" is explicitly a moral judgement). I've come to suspect that it really isn't as simple as "lack of self-control": too many people I know have gained significant weight due to medications or medical conditions, or despite sincere and sustained efforts to bring their weight under control. (I'm also quite intrigued by claims that even broad…
Obesity is absolutely a moral disease, in the sense that you don't get fat without eating yourself fat, as well as a disease of our society, in terms of our society producing foods that encourage people to eat themselves fat. Broader factors certainly share the blame, but so do individuals. It is possible for almost anyone to be thin in today's society, in the same way that it was possible for almost anyone to get fa…
In general, I agree that there's always some responsibility on the individual. But in a lot of cases, I really don't think it's helpful to look at it that way.
I have a friend who was in great physical shape consistently for years. Then (going from memory on the details here) at some point she got on a new medication for migraines, and within a few months she'd gained a surprising number of pounds. Her eating and activity habits didn't change all that much along the way: the drugs just affected her metabolism somehow. Nothing she's tried since has gotten the weight off (and it's not feasible to drop the only medication that's been able to stop the searing pain).
So tell me: which part of that was a moral failure on her part? Because you've made it clear that if you saw her in the street, that's what you'd be thinking.