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McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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To me it is because this just traps you into constantly using the drug instead of adapting to the fact that you have gotten older and should eat less.

But what exactly about that situation makes it worse? Let's assume for a moment that a therapy exists that is funtionally identical to proper diet. It seems that each person could choose to weigh the costs of the drug vs. the increased enjoyment of eating whatever, or vs. the decreased time spent at a gym. The way things work today, you're right. People "should eat less". It used to be that if you didn't want childre…

But it is not identical to a proper diet. You still need to keep one despite this medicine, it is just a slightly larger diet.

Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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Are you saying you don't believe he went off insulin, and that his data was fabricated? You can also just look into the decades of research done on carbohydrates and diabetes http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900714...

I'm saying one should be aware of what I think are undisclosed ulterior motives, especially the monetary one. Furthermore, its easy to draw a conclusion from a sample size of one. I could just as easily find a sample size of one for who this diet would not cure T1D and start "exposing the myth" about paleo diets, but it would be shitty science... Also I am skeptical of Paleo diets in general because historical scient…

"Paleo" doesn't mean only eat the food that was available to our ancestors. It means look at our evolutionary biology to see what types of foods and nutrients might be good or bad for humans. Who cares about "paleo" - we care about the science behind nutrition. And one aspect of that science is excess carbohydrates in the diet may be bad for humans.

Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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Feel free to die then. Don't condemn everyone else. Are you going to complain because life expectancies have already gone up by decades? "We need more resources because we cured death" is precisely the kind of problem we ought to have.

No need to be facetious, death need not be a condemnation, and there is value in awareness of consequence.

> there is value in awareness of consequence

Awareness of consequence is one thing, and it's fine to anticipate the next set of problems and discuss how to address them. But "we shouldn't fix this problem because it'll raise new ones" is an awful statement, compared to "let's fix this problem; bring on the next ones and we'll fix those too".

> death need not be a condemnation

If you oppose other people living longer or forever, you're saying you want them dead, sooner or later. Couching it in vague or indirect language makes it no less of a condemnation.

Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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So refined carbs are bad due to high glycemic index, too much fat is bad due to seratonin release, is a generally optimal diet then just lean meat and vegetables? We are running out of things to eat...

Lean meat and vegetables seems like a pretty good diet to me! When I'm actually following that, I do need to add some fat, otherwise I'm feeling hungry all the time. Add a bit of fat (olive oil or butter, generally for me) and things are golden. Eggs work too!

Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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I don't really understand the comments here, and especially on the article itself, deriding this research because "people should just get off their butts and exercise" or similar. I'm sure the researchers wouldn't dispute the benefits of exercise. But if there really is a safe, effective way to improve the metabolism and make it easier to keep off fat, why exactly is that a bad thing? (Naturally the research is far t…

Should watch the documentary fed up.

Covers a number interesting stats that show increase in sugar and other cost cutting products growth is growing with obesity.

I have lost over 100lbs in 2 years once weighing near 300 from hard work exercising, risky metabolism boosters stacks with ephedrine (not banned in Canada), interval training constantly monitoring my heart rate during workouts especially cause of ephedrine and changing my diet.

I have kept it off for 3 years without having really exercising in the past 3 years by lowering carb and sugar intake and removed all fast food. Still eat out and don't watch any calorie or fat content

Exercise alone won't help. Exercise in western/ euro coultures didn't gain popularity till mid 1900s. Obesity rate has exploded since then. More people are going to the gym and exercising yet even more population is even fatter...

Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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Am I wrong, or does this contradict all the recent research about fat actually not causing obesity. http://www.businessinsider.com/experts-eat-more-fat-2014-10

I was very surprised about fat blaming in this article too. Its common knowledge* that high amounts of hydrocarbons in the died decrease metabolism. When you eat food that is easy to burn your body switches to that and stops trying to burn stored fat.

*not 'grandmas wisdom', but something you can test on yourself with Ketogenic diet in 1-2 months.

Re: McMaster researchers may have found a way to restore metabolism to youth levels

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I don't really understand the comments here, and especially on the article itself, deriding this research because "people should just get off their butts and exercise" or similar. I'm sure the researchers wouldn't dispute the benefits of exercise. But if there really is a safe, effective way to improve the metabolism and make it easier to keep off fat, why exactly is that a bad thing? (Naturally the research is far t…

I was watching "Feeding Frenzy: The Food Industry, Marketing & the Creation of a Health Crisis" on LinkTV last night and they talked about how obesity is rising in 3-6 year olds. The point being that children in that age group are no less active today than in the past, so something else is causing obesity, type II diabetes and other problems.

The most likely culprit is processed food, where nutrients are not used in their natural form, but instead converted into something else. So using corn to make high fructose corn syrup, soy and cottonseed to make oil, or feeding animal protein to herbivores are a few examples of where the food supply is getting contaminated. For example, cottonseed oil is not only a relatively unhealthy oil, but it also contains one of the highest concentration of pesticides (because cotton was not traditionally a food crop).

Not to mention that plastics contain hormone-like chemicals like BPA, they use preservatives in things like canned food that don’t need them, and add animal byproducts like pork lard to foods like refried beans that don’t need them. So our immune systems are getting bombarded by substances we either have no evolutionary history with or simply don’t need to be eating in the quantities that we are. So that inhibits aspects of our immune systems and metabolism (triggering autoimmune disorders like allergies, asthma, arthritis and metabolic syndrome).

I could literally go on forever about this, so the gist of it is “it’s the food supply, stupid”. Yes, being more active helps a great deal, but without proper nutrition we’re looking at a modern form of the wasting diseases similar to the ones they used to get in the 1800s before they understood vitamins and minerals, except it’s masked by obesity. I think if we didn’t have the social stigmas around laziness and the political monkeying of the farm and retail lobbies, we would have recognized obesity as an epidemic the way we did with polio and done something about it decades ago. Nothing short of going back to the foods we ate before about 1980 is going to work for the vast majority of the population. And that’s going to start with campaigns to inform people about what’s in their food and reform the way we design cities so that food centers are near where people live.

TL;DR: They found medical evidence that the western diet disrupts metabolism via pathways other than caloric intake. Now let’s do something about it.

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