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Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

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Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

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I don't agree with all (or most) of the principles of TPB, but I can appreciate his criticism of slacktivism. He had his beliefs, stood by them against the law, and served his time for it. It's unjustified to criticise a lack of action on his part.

My only concern with his methods would be if he hurt people in the process (indirectly through TPB). Also I fail to see how it was an effective protest against the things he mentioned in the article (SOPA, PIPA etc).

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

#62
Last paragraph was biting and very powerful - side note: Who sends a copy of 1984 to Peter Sunde in prison?

"My feeling of some life-altering insight might be nothing but rants on the spoiled, lazy and naive parts of our internet community. And maybe I'm using those terms just to piss people off a little bit more. But hey. I went to jail for my cause and your TV shows. What did you do? You want that copy of Orwell's 1984 returned? I'll take one of the 25 copies I got sent to me in jail and send it back to you. Maybe you'll read it instead of just sending it to someone else to take care of."

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

#63
post #30

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This whole argument disappoints me. Every manufacturer of a DVD or CD Writer has "enabled" illegal copying and potential distribution of copyrighted content. I haven't seen any of those entities reprimanded for their product manufacture.

There's a tax in some countries over blank CD/DVD exactly for that reason, enabling illegal copying. It is a crazy world, anything is possible. Edit: found a link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy

So, by that definition, it's not illegal.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

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post #6

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And Manning went to jail for revealing government secrets about government crimes. And Snowden cannot return home because he revealed that people are being spied on. It's very easy to say, "he went to jail because what he did was illegal". It's harder to say "he went to jail despite what he did was right". I support TPB's cause. I believe that non-profit sharing of information should be free.

>> "I support TPB's cause. I believe that non-profit sharing of information should be free." And how should the people who take the time to create that 'information' be compensated?

How are the people who created Facebook compensated?

I see no reason why ad-based free distribution couldn't be used for e.g. music and movies. People want convenience more than they want free - nobody uses Diaspora, everybody uses Facebook.

Also, there is a lot of money to be earned by selling concerts, cinema performances, memorabilia... (I also wouldn't oppose some reasonably short copyright term, e.g. from a few months to a few years, that would allow authors to more effectively monetize e.g. cinema.)

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

#65
post #25

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> The Pirate Bay isn't some noble cause Consider it as a litmus test for free speech. Providing links to pirated content, not even the content itself, can easily be seen as free speech.

Theft is theft, not free speech.

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Free speech or theft?

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

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post #25

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> The Pirate Bay isn't some noble cause Consider it as a litmus test for free speech. Providing links to pirated content, not even the content itself, can easily be seen as free speech.

Theft is theft, not free speech.

Theft is a concept that originates from our definition of "property". I oppose the legal definition that copyright == property; I agree that a reasonably short copyright term can encourage the creation of art, but what we have now is outrageous and I don't think the trade-off makes sense for the public.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Pirate Bay isn't some noble cause Consider it as a litmus test for free speech. Providing links to pirated content, not even the content itself, can easily be seen as free speech.

Theft is theft, not free speech.

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Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

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post #25

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> The Pirate Bay isn't some noble cause Consider it as a litmus test for free speech. Providing links to pirated content, not even the content itself, can easily be seen as free speech.

Theft is theft, not free speech.

And he never was jailed for theft, he was jailed for aiding copyright infringement.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'

#69
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Manning went to jail for revealing government secrets about government crimes. And Snowden cannot return home because he revealed that people are being spied on. It's very easy to say, "he went to jail because what he did was illegal". It's harder to say "he went to jail despite what he did was right". I support TPB's cause. I believe that non-profit sharing of information should be free.

>> "I support TPB's cause. I believe that non-profit sharing of information should be free." And how should the people who take the time to create that 'information' be compensated?

Well, I get paid to create that information and help use it. Others get paid to distribute it personally, usually in a stage. Others yet simply get money from public grants or private donations.

There are really too many ways to list here.

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