Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
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Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#2He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#3He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
Agreed. Freedom on the Internet != Piracy. I can't really remember this guy doing anything for freedom, except freedom to download Hollywood entertainment for free.
I mean, sure, I pirate, but I sure don't pretend it's virtuous.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#4He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
He believes that information should be free to share.
And you also argue that basically providing links should be illegal. Since TPB doesn't do any of the copying, it does not host any copyrighted content itself, it's just a central index. So until the content industry got their way in the courts and laws were altered in various countries this wasn't illegal at all. And he is fighting against the meta-information being outlawed. Pretty much the same deal as illegal primes.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#5He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
What makes you think those causes are the ones he's talking about? There are more causes to promote besides the ones you like.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#6He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
And Manning went to jail for revealing government secrets about government crimes. And Snowden cannot return home because he revealed that people are being spied on.
It's very easy to say, "he went to jail because what he did was illegal". It's harder to say "he went to jail despite what he did was right".
I support TPB's cause. I believe that non-profit sharing of information should be free.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#7He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
He believes that information should be free to share. And you also argue that basically providing links should be illegal. Since TPB doesn't do any of the copying, it does not host any copyrighted content itself, it's just a central index. So until the content industry got their way in the courts and laws were altered in various countries this wasn't illegal at all. And he is fighting against the meta-information bei…
>> "And you also argue that basically providing links should be illegal"
I specifically avoided saying this. By providing those links they 'enabled' downloading of content illegally.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
He believes that information should be free to share. And you also argue that basically providing links should be illegal. Since TPB doesn't do any of the copying, it does not host any copyrighted content itself, it's just a central index. So until the content industry got their way in the courts and laws were altered in various countries this wasn't illegal at all. And he is fighting against the meta-information bei…
>> "And you also argue that basically providing links should be illegal" I specifically avoided saying this. By providing those links they 'enabled' downloading of content illegally.
And "enabling" copyright infringement was not illegal in many jurisdictions until the content industry either created case law or lobbied for laws to be altered.
Policy changes he opposes.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#9He went to jail for creating a website that enabled people to download music and movies without paying for them. Jail is a harsh punishment IMO for that. ACTA/SOPA etc. are all terrible things that we can't allow and we can't allow the internet to become more centralised/controlled by government. But that's not why he went to jail. Enabling illegal downloads of content has little to do with those causes.
And Manning went to jail for revealing government secrets about government crimes. And Snowden cannot return home because he revealed that people are being spied on. It's very easy to say, "he went to jail because what he did was illegal". It's harder to say "he went to jail despite what he did was right". I support TPB's cause. I believe that non-profit sharing of information should be free.
Wait wait. You're telling me Sunde is comparable to Snowden and Manning? Wat.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'I went to jail for my cause. What did you do?'
#10I feel this is a very important article with a very important message, but I'm just not sure what I can do to help! They have money, guns, political support, media and very powerful, highly emotional rhetoric. The only thing I can do is hack on software, but most people don't care enough about "geeky stuff". I feel that the only way this issues will get resolved is if they get much, much worse first (i.e. high-profile people jailed for what they say, internet controlled China-style, disappearance of middle class, ...).