Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by michaelochurch » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 1:36 PM UTC

Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy
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Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by sportanova » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:32 PM UTC

Of course the other reason for 'unlimited vacation' is so when an employee leaves, the company doesn't have to pay them for unused vacation days. Huge red flag when a company has 'unlimited vacation'

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by JoeAltmaier » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

sportanova wrote: post #2

Of course the other reason for 'unlimited vacation' is so when an employee leaves, the company doesn't have to pay them for unused vacation days. Huge red flag when a company has 'unlimited vacation'

... unless you just take vacations normally. Then perhaps you have already taken your vacation when you leave, and the company is out that work. It cuts both ways.

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by tylermac1 » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:39 PM UTC

sportanova wrote: post #2

Of course the other reason for 'unlimited vacation' is so when an employee leaves, the company doesn't have to pay them for unused vacation days. Huge red flag when a company has 'unlimited vacation'

With these kinds of policies being more common in young companies, I highly doubt that paying back unused vacation can have any significant effect on normal operations. In the other case there's also generally limits on how much vacation time you can build up, generally taking a couple years of not taking vacation to max out.

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by javery » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:40 PM UTC

We have an unlimited vacation policy at Adzerk and I try to lead by example by taking at least 2-3 weeks off a year (especially in the summer). We also try to encourage everyone to take at least one solid week off a year and it seems to work pretty well.

I think that's the real issue with unlimited policy - if the leaders don't take vacation no one else thinks they can.

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by whoisthemachine » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:41 PM UTC

Interesting take on paid time off that I've never seen before. Will be looking forward to the update on how this works out.

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by foolinaround » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:42 PM UTC

What I found to be even more relaxing is if all the employees of a company are forced to take the same time off ( 2 days to a week) and other flexible time off where the employee can choose his own time.

Then, there are no email or updates to come back to...

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by spir » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:42 PM UTC

It's like all these high-powered technology executives never opened an economics textbook.

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by CaveTech » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:42 PM UTC

javery wrote: post #5

We have an unlimited vacation policy at Adzerk and I try to lead by example by taking at least 2-3 weeks off a year (especially in the summer). We also try to encourage everyone to take at least one solid week off a year and it seems to work pretty well. I think that's the real issue with unlimited policy - if the leaders don't take vacation no one else thinks they can.

"At least 2 weeks off". Isn't 2 weeks the bare minimum?

Re: Travis CI: From Open to Minimum Vacation Policy

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Post by larsberg » Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 2:43 PM UTC

I definitely saw the "being totally unplugged" problem both previously when I worked at Microsoft and now when working at Mozilla. It's arguably even worse at Mozilla with the shift of many people (myself included) to IRCCloud, which is a wonderful service but turns what was supposed to be an asynchronous, loose availability chat system into a realtime, all-hours interruption mechanism.