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Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by deciplex »

draugadrotten wrote: post #23
cdevfr wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website, >>>film companies maintained And literally the second paragraph in your link: The claims were dismissed by Jonas Nilsson, legal counsel for one of the defendants, Fredrik Neij. Nilsson argued that instead of being a profits earner most of the work to keep The Pirate Bay running had been undertaken on a v…

Well, you can say that "the prosecutor said this and the defendant counsel said this", but at the end of the day we know that the four operators of the site were convicted by Stockholm district court on 17 April 2009 and sentenced to one year in jail each and a total of 30 million Swedish kronor (approximately US$3.5 million, €2.7 million) in fines and damages. So I guess the court believed the prosecutor.

Well, for one, that the fines and damages were n has no bearing on what profit the site made, if any.

And, two, given the current legal environment in most of the West including Sweden, "the court believed the prosecutor" doesn't mean shit, really. Of course the court believed the prosecutor - they are on the same team, after all.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by bigbugbag »

eXpl0it3r wrote: post #17
witty_username wrote: post #3

I must agree; the ads are way too crazy.

Maybe I'm one of these "jerks", but it's always amusing to me when people complain about ads on the internet, while there are so many different ad-blockers out there.

and more and more adblockers-blockers. The point is something is wrong with the web business model, or simply that it has one.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by zerr »

Can anybody explain what's the fuzz regarding pirate bay? I mean, there are tons of good torrent sites and search engines everybody use every day... I don't even remember when I last time used TPB...

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by icebraining »

meesterdude wrote: post #7
sysk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it's hosting torrents in flat files or in database rows seems like a minor technical difference to me. Apart from that, the same broken UI doesn't seem to have changed much in the past 8 years. I didn't know that TPB was open source... surprised that the community didn't try to improve the UX a bit.

Actually, there is a difference between hosting the files and just linking to them, and is by no means a "minor technical difference". Although to be fair I think it was done not only to increase portability but also to decrease legal targeting, the latter of which seems like it didn't pan out in the end though may have thwarted some legal efforts along the way.

But a torrent was already just a link to the actual content.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by roel_v »

lelandbatey wrote: post #10
sysk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it's hosting torrents in flat files or in database rows seems like a minor technical difference to me. Apart from that, the same broken UI doesn't seem to have changed much in the past 8 years. I didn't know that TPB was open source... surprised that the community didn't try to improve the UX a bit.

The thing is that to download a torrent, the absolute minimum amount of information you need is the torrent hash. The torrent hash is on the order of ~40 characters long, requiring no other information. All you have to do is paste that short sting into a torrent client to download a set of files. Are we really going to say that these 40 character strings are illegal to share? If I paste the hash for the latest blockb…

It's sad that I have to beat that tired old drum again, but in law, intent matters (yes I have a law degree but I think it's fair to say that one doesn't need one to know that). After 15 years I should have been desensitized by farcically naive 'reasoning' (or I should say, farcically naive sophistry, because let's face it, that's what it is) like 'they don't post torrents, the users do' and 'how can a small string be illegal' but it still annoys me.

At the risk of going down the shitty analogy path, let's consider 'How can putting just a tiny bit of lead into somebody's head be illegal? It's only 115 grain! I mean, of course, putting 500 grain into somebody would be illegal, but if I put only 115 grain of lead into somebody, can legal action be taken against me?' Really?

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by code_duck »

Stormcaller wrote: post #25
Kequc wrote: post #4

In the last 8 years the pirate bay hasn't changed? It went open source and embraced magnet links entirely. Making it so that almost nothing was being hosted on the server itself. You can download the entire pirate bay in 90MB to put one up of your own. There are hundreds of pirate bays all over the world running on almost nothing allowing everyone to download the same things at the same speeds. [edit: It didn't go op…

Btw, can someone explain to me how they can have ads? I mean, if US is willing to go far enough that they seem to have obvious influence on other countries and these countries punish these individuals, when normally they don't(or so I think), surely they very interested in taking down TPB or finding out who runs it? And they had ads when there were no bitcoin etc. So what I'm wondering is that, if I were interested i…

The NSA doesn't police copyright issues. Their involvement would be arranging for FBI/police in Europe to get the info they desire to do that.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by nocman »

sebgeelen wrote: post #9

The blog title contain a question mark, I guess this HN topic should also have it...

Yes, this should be edited. It is very misleading.

Rings of someone trying to get more people to click the link because instead of asking if it might be happening, it sounds like it definitely is going down forever.

It needs to be changed.

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