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Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by draugadrotten »

Kequc wrote: post #4

In the last 8 years the pirate bay hasn't changed? It went open source and embraced magnet links entirely. Making it so that almost nothing was being hosted on the server itself. You can download the entire pirate bay in 90MB to put one up of your own. There are hundreds of pirate bays all over the world running on almost nothing allowing everyone to download the same things at the same speeds. [edit: It didn't go op…

> The ads were because of legal defence fees, which can be huge.

Citation?

The ads were making millions(1) to the people behind the TPB, and the legal cost is several orders of magnitude less.

update: (1) http://www.thelocal.se/20100930/29334 "The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website" (2010, already)

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#12

Post by gcb0 »

draugadrotten wrote: post #11
Kequc wrote: post #4

In the last 8 years the pirate bay hasn't changed? It went open source and embraced magnet links entirely. Making it so that almost nothing was being hosted on the server itself. You can download the entire pirate bay in 90MB to put one up of your own. There are hundreds of pirate bays all over the world running on almost nothing allowing everyone to download the same things at the same speeds. [edit: It didn't go op…

> The ads were because of legal defence fees, which can be huge. Citation? The ads were making millions(1) to the people behind the TPB, and the legal cost is several orders of magnitude less. update: (1) http://www.thelocal.se/20100930/29334 "The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website" (2010, already)

> The ads were making millions

Citation?

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by sysk »

lelandbatey wrote: post #10
sysk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it's hosting torrents in flat files or in database rows seems like a minor technical difference to me. Apart from that, the same broken UI doesn't seem to have changed much in the past 8 years. I didn't know that TPB was open source... surprised that the community didn't try to improve the UX a bit.

The thing is that to download a torrent, the absolute minimum amount of information you need is the torrent hash. The torrent hash is on the order of ~40 characters long, requiring no other information. All you have to do is paste that short sting into a torrent client to download a set of files. Are we really going to say that these 40 character strings are illegal to share? If I paste the hash for the latest blockb…

I understand that magnet links might make a difference legally. What I meant is that switching to magnet links instead of torrent files is not what I would consider a big technical achievement (TPB didn't actually invent the magnet URI scheme, they simply adopted it). My main point being that I agree with Peter Sunde, TPB hasn't changed much in 8 years. Here's TPB in 2006: https://web.archive.org/web/20061007080151/http://thepirateb...

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by xerophyte12932 »

Kequc wrote: post #8
sysk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it's hosting torrents in flat files or in database rows seems like a minor technical difference to me. Apart from that, the same broken UI doesn't seem to have changed much in the past 8 years. I didn't know that TPB was open source... surprised that the community didn't try to improve the UX a bit.

Sorry. I was mistaken it didn't go open source, the proxybay was literally proxies to the main site and now all of them are down. You can in fact download a copy of every torrent and magnet link, then build your own site that searches through them. Magnet links are just a short string of text so one who does isn't hosting anything as far as I'm concerned. That isn't the law apparently.

> all of them are down

If you mean all the 'thepiratebay' domains, I think you are mistaken. This one works for me:

https://thepiratebay.cr/

haven't tried any else yet

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by draugadrotten »

gcb0 wrote: post #12
draugadrotten wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ads were because of legal defence fees, which can be huge. Citation? The ads were making millions(1) to the people behind the TPB, and the legal cost is several orders of magnitude less. update: (1) http://www.thelocal.se/20100930/29334 "The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website" (2010, already)

> The ads were making millions Citation?

http://www.thelocal.se/20100930/29334 "The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website" (2010, already)

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#19

Post by cdevfr »

draugadrotten wrote: post #18
gcb0 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ads were making millions Citation?

http://www.thelocal.se/20100930/29334 "The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website" (2010, already)

The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website, >>>film companies maintained

And literally the second paragraph in your link:

The claims were dismissed by Jonas Nilsson, legal counsel for one of the defendants, Fredrik Neij.

Nilsson argued that instead of being a profits earner most of the work to keep The Pirate Bay running had been undertaken on a voluntary unpaid basis.

"The revenues, which were not very large, went to buying new equipment," Nilsson said.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by sebcat »

draugadrotten wrote: post #18
gcb0 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ads were making millions Citation?

http://www.thelocal.se/20100930/29334 "The Pirate Bay earned up to 35 million kronor ($5.2 million) in advertising revenue from the file sharing website" (2010, already)

... according to the prosecution, who pulled those numbers out of thin air, with no actual evidence what so ever. You see parts of that in the TPB - AFK documentary.
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