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Re: ParisIsBack – The Paris Tech Guide

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Does anyone have any insight as to how painful it is to relocate to Paris from outside of France, or even from outside of the Schengen zone?

Finding an apartment in Paris is a special circle of hell, get help by whomever is hiring you, because it's a very lengthy and humiliating process for foreigners.

I've visited apartments for about two months before finding a place outside of Paris and have been asked all sorts of private questions about my life, for example looking at your tax and salary receipts is considered standard practice.

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the real pain is the housing and the subsequent suburb transportation.

If you compare with other major capitals, like SF, NYC or London, housing is quite cheap (around twice as less expensive). And although the transportation system is far from being flawless, it's not worse than any other one.

Only if you compare by the room, not by the surface. If you can consider a 3m x 3m a room go for it!

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There are a bunch of nice things to be said about Paris and the tax rebate system they put in place for startups and companies that spend heavily in R&D. However I think that Paris has a very low quality of life in most of the fields that are ignored in metrics: - Apartment prices are usually measure by the room when doing comparisons. In Paris the room count is misleading: I've seen studios smaller than 15 m^2 and 1…

"The weather is awful, it rains 40% of the days."

-> According to Wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climat_de_Paris) this is untrue.

"Paris connaît en moyenne 111,1 jours de pluie par an, mais si celles-ci sont fréquentes, elles sont en revanche peu soutenues."

In other words, it rains 30% of the days on average, and these are very light rains, most of the time.

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There are a bunch of nice things to be said about Paris and the tax rebate system they put in place for startups and companies that spend heavily in R&D. However I think that Paris has a very low quality of life in most of the fields that are ignored in metrics: - Apartment prices are usually measure by the room when doing comparisons. In Paris the room count is misleading: I've seen studios smaller than 15 m^2 and 1…

> The weather is awful, it rains 40% of the days.

According to Wikipedia [1] it’s only 30% (650mm/year, while it’s 980mm/year in Bordeaux or 800mm/year in Nice [2])

> the random brasserie is an expensive tourist trap

To be fair, a lot of “random brasseries” are pretty good, you can eat a good meal for €10 everywhere in the city.

[1]: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climat_de_Paris [2]: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climat_de_la_France#Donn.C3.A9...

Re: ParisIsBack – The Paris Tech Guide

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Do most Parisians speak English? Or will I be considered an outsider and Immediately ignored if I speak only English?

The best thing about the Anglophone world is the language. I wouldn't mind learning a new language, but it takes time.

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There are a bunch of nice things to be said about Paris and the tax rebate system they put in place for startups and companies that spend heavily in R&D. However I think that Paris has a very low quality of life in most of the fields that are ignored in metrics: - Apartment prices are usually measure by the room when doing comparisons. In Paris the room count is misleading: I've seen studios smaller than 15 m^2 and 1…

A city like Lille (or Strasbourg, Nantes, etc.) offers a much better quality of life but looks like to a small village regarding tech, in comparison to Paris. The business activity outside Paris in very weak. Few startups, few engineers, few meetups ... I don't regret my former "provincial" life, even if I live now in a small apartment in a decrepit building in a noisy neighborhood.

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There are a bunch of nice things to be said about Paris and the tax rebate system they put in place for startups and companies that spend heavily in R&D. However I think that Paris has a very low quality of life in most of the fields that are ignored in metrics: - Apartment prices are usually measure by the room when doing comparisons. In Paris the room count is misleading: I've seen studios smaller than 15 m^2 and 1…

"The weather is awful, it rains 40% of the days." -> According to Wikipedia ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climat_de_Paris ) this is untrue. "Paris connaît en moyenne 111,1 jours de pluie par an, mais si celles-ci sont fréquentes, elles sont en revanche peu soutenues." In other words, it rains 30% of the days on average, and these are very light rains, most of the time.

I did the computation myself I think in the span 2000-2013, using data from Wolfram|Alpha and I was surprised to find that Paris had 46% of days with at least one shower. Here are the cities I had checked:

London 42

Paris 46

Rome 23

Boston 32

Buenos Aires 30

San Francisco 18

Lima 21

Beijing 24

Sydney 20

Moscow 31

If you want to try it yourself from the beginning of 2000 to now:

https://www.wolframcloud.com/objects/b432e59c-fa11-497b-8f6a...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you compare with other major capitals, like SF, NYC or London, housing is quite cheap (around twice as less expensive). And although the transportation system is far from being flawless, it's not worse than any other one.

Only if you compare by the room, not by the surface. If you can consider a 3m x 3m a room go for it!

Untrue. I've lived in Paris, London and SF and Paris is definitely the cheapest (even by the surface). I'm paying $1100/month in Paris for a 300sq foot appartment (in a nice neighborhood). I was paying $3000/month in SF for a 400sq foot appartment...
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