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Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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I was surprised at the number who had a degree was less than the national average for California. I guess there's a lot of immigrant workers who don't achieve higher education levels which skews the perception living and working in the valley. States like Virginia and Kansas beat the national average, yet not california, that's really sad.

I almost guarantee that any HN reader lives in a section of California that is radically unrepresentative of the state as a whole.

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I was surprised at the number who had a degree was less than the national average for California. I guess there's a lot of immigrant workers who don't achieve higher education levels which skews the perception living and working in the valley. States like Virginia and Kansas beat the national average, yet not california, that's really sad.

Someone has to be below average. Dunno why it's sadder to have unemployed Californians than unemployed Virginians.

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These numbers are really grim, and considering the job market only gets more cruel a few years after the top end of this age bracket, it makes it hard for young people to have a lot of hope for the future. Granted, maybe some of them are reflective of age-agnostic trends but still! Start in higher debt then make less than ever! As a young person looking at these numbers I realize I am squandering my blessings as a hi…

It's pretty great--all the while, even in tech we're watching fewer IPOs (and thus good exits for non-founders), companies whose business proposition is often literally "We externalize our costs by ignoring local laws and screwing our emplo^Hcontractors", and all the while pissing off everyone else in the economy by telling them how awesome the future is going to be.

And we still haven't managed to engage (politically or otherwise) the folks actually running the government. Things aren't looking good.

:(

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I was surprised at the number who had a degree was less than the national average for California. I guess there's a lot of immigrant workers who don't achieve higher education levels which skews the perception living and working in the valley. States like Virginia and Kansas beat the national average, yet not california, that's really sad.

I almost guarantee that any HN reader lives in a section of California that is radically unrepresentative of the state as a whole.

i.e. San Francisco != California

Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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35+ y/o here. Every time I hear things like this I call up my mother and thank her for having me earlier than later. Also, I did not like the interface. I'd rather all the data was just there in one map.

Something like this? http://www.socialexplorer.com/

Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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These numbers are really grim, and considering the job market only gets more cruel a few years after the top end of this age bracket, it makes it hard for young people to have a lot of hope for the future. Granted, maybe some of them are reflective of age-agnostic trends but still! Start in higher debt then make less than ever! As a young person looking at these numbers I realize I am squandering my blessings as a hi…

Welcome to "staying competitive".

Here at Spain (and generally Southern Europe) we've been told over and over again that we have to stay competitive, which is just an euphemism for working more and earning less (i.e. becoming Europe's China).

In a globalized market with a (still) steadily growing population, competition is growing and therefore salaries are shrinking.

It's happening in all industries (e.g. tech firms offshoring) but also at homes. I don't know about the USA but here in Spain housewives love hunting for sales, buying as cheap as they can, and proud about it. Why are they surprised later when their children can't find a decent salary? Buying Perú's asparagus cheaper than in our home country (including transportation across the Atlantic!) is only driving prices lower and lower, which hinders the whole economy in the long term.

And now the USA is going to sign a trade agreement with Europe which will further increase competition and will drive wages even lower than they're now for both parties.

On the other hand, isn't this just leveling the playing field for developing countries? After all, for them to grow, we have to shrink.

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The Median Earnings for Full Time Workers page was quite sad for America. Language Other than English Spoken at Home was quite surprising for me. I had no idea it was that high. I don't understand how the employment numbers can be that bad. 35% unemployment - that is mostly impacted by people rearing children and college age folk, I hope.

A significant portion of that age group is still in school, hence not employed nor unemployed. They should really just show the unemployment rate, not the employment rate. But yeah, the median income drop and poverty rate increase is pretty sad.

True. But another significant portion is considered "unemployable" or "disheartened" which makes unemployment numbers misleading as well.

Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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The Median Earnings for Full Time Workers page was quite sad for America. Language Other than English Spoken at Home was quite surprising for me. I had no idea it was that high. I don't understand how the employment numbers can be that bad. 35% unemployment - that is mostly impacted by people rearing children and college age folk, I hope.

A significant portion of that age group is still in school, hence not employed nor unemployed. They should really just show the unemployment rate, not the employment rate. But yeah, the median income drop and poverty rate increase is pretty sad.

I wonder about the median income. Another statistic says that more people have at least a Bachelor degree. Consequently, more people start working at a later age, reducing the median income. On the other hand, new employees with a degree should earn more. It would be interesting to know the interaction between the two.
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