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Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by pyre »

rgbrenner wrote: post #100
tomp wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if somebody who already is in a position of power/authority/trust is accused of something like that? That's what I meant with "easy to ruin people's lives" (e.g. Strauss-Kahn).

Well, here in the US at least, that very often leads to them losing their job. And I'm not just referring to rape--even more minor offenses... for example, teachers have been fired for their offensive facebook comments. That isn't ruining their lives. They are free to go work elsewhere where other people's lives aren't put in their hands. I'll be more specific. This man was accused of rape and worked as a cab driver,…

How is ruining a teacher's teaching career the same as this? Most teachers spend a not insignificant portion of their time working towards the goal of becoming a teacher. That is now the case for someone learning to be a cab driver.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by smtddr »

RealGeek wrote: post #103
jessaustin wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were in a position to hire/not hire those characters, I would definitely stipulate that they may not bring a gun to work...

Would you hire them to look after black kids?

If I found out my black son & daughter were being looked after by one of those two....

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by rikacomet »

avinassh wrote: post #92
RealGeek wrote: post #10

Uber is not being banned just because of this rape incident. Uber did not following Indian laws & Delhi transport regulations, and operated illegally under the radar. Before this incident, Delhi Government was not aware about how Uber operated. This incident prompted Indian authorities to investigate the operations of Uber. Uber's stance is that we are not a taxi company, we are an app company; so we do not need to f…

> The alleged driver had previously served 7 months in prison for rape charges, that didn't stop Uber from recruiting him. mostly because he had No Objection Certificate from Delhi Police itself [0] that his history is clean? EDIT: This image could be fake too, I can't trust our Indian media houses either :| [0] - http://i.imgur.com/rwjhHBq.jpg source of [0] - https://twitter.com/timesnow/status/541885210573275136

NOC doesn't mean his record is clean, or he is safe to hire. NOC means, that DP doesn't have any issues with him getting recruited anywhere (ofcourse if people with records of served sentence aren't going to get a job, they will get into more shady things).

Uber on its own, had to follow its marketing pitch at least(that it checks bla bla bla). But then again, that didn't happen, and that is the basis of the outburst here.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by rgbrenner »

pyre wrote: post #131
rgbrenner wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, here in the US at least, that very often leads to them losing their job. And I'm not just referring to rape--even more minor offenses... for example, teachers have been fired for their offensive facebook comments. That isn't ruining their lives. They are free to go work elsewhere where other people's lives aren't put in their hands. I'll be more specific. This man was accused of rape and worked as a cab driver,…

How is ruining a teacher's teaching career the same as this? Most teachers spend a not insignificant portion of their time working towards the goal of becoming a teacher. That is now the case for someone learning to be a cab driver.

I completely agree with your point. Teachers do spend a significant amount of time, and yet we have these consequences for them. And yet here we have cab driver, who has spent virtually no time, and there are some who think he should have a right to this position.

Edit: I think the comparison of responsibility is appropriate here.. since a cab driver may have a minor, mentally disabled, or intoxicated individual in their care.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by tomjen3 »

cant-be-serious wrote: post #84
RealGeek wrote: post #10

Uber is not being banned just because of this rape incident. Uber did not following Indian laws & Delhi transport regulations, and operated illegally under the radar. Before this incident, Delhi Government was not aware about how Uber operated. This incident prompted Indian authorities to investigate the operations of Uber. Uber's stance is that we are not a taxi company, we are an app company; so we do not need to f…

>The alleged driver had previously served 7 months in prison for rape charges, Only 7 months for rape?

When not convicted, that is some serious time.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by sriramk »

I think Uber is being unfairly maligned here - too long for a comment, long piece at https://medium.com/@sriramk/in-defense-of-uber-in-india-f81c....

tldr: Uber just can't do the same checks it does in the US in other parts of the world which don't have records. And even though it did actually get the right certificate from the cops in this case, they should have thought of doing more.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by RealGeek »

sgarg26 wrote: post #96
RealGeek wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using cab services safer, convenient and cheaper than Uber in Delhi

Like a normal cab that you hail from the street?

You can do that, and also call them on phone, website & app. Here is an Indian cab company which follows laws & regulations: http://www.merucabs.com

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by Eleutheria »

Let me see...

If I buy a gun and shoot you, the government will ban gun manufacturers?

If I buy a baseball bat and smash your skull, the govt will ban all sports?

If I buy a potato and stick it in your throat and you die, the govt will ban agriculture?

If I offer you a ride (free or for a fee) and then decide to rape you and bury you in a forest, the govt will ban auto makers?

How does that make sense?

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by DanBC »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #50
adrianN wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of countries don't have guns in every purse without rampant rapists. I think there are different solutions to the problem, like promoting a culture where women are equal.

Which do you think will reduce rape right now ? A bunch of rapists showing up at hospitals with holes in them, or some sort of education campaign to change the culture? If things can get better in 10 years that's great. I'd also like the women I care about to be safe tomorrow. A few dead rapists is a small price to pay for that.

Nice victim blaming - they got raped because they didn't want to shoot someone.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Post by chaosmonkey »

Eleutheria wrote: post #138

Let me see... If I buy a gun and shoot you, the government will ban gun manufacturers? If I buy a baseball bat and smash your skull, the govt will ban all sports? If I buy a potato and stick it in your throat and you die, the govt will ban agriculture? If I offer you a ride (free or for a fee) and then decide to rape you and bury you in a forest, the govt will ban auto makers? How does that make sense?

If the gun manufacturer claimed that they have verified that guns don't kill.

http://blog.uber.com/driverscreening

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