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Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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So, I'm not a Uber fan, but I get the feeling this is India deflecting a couple of other underlying issues and placing blame. Sooner or later they have to face the issue head on, because scapegoating gets old.

Agreed. It's also not as if these sexual assault cases are not well documented already. I wonder what Uber will say about this.

So what then, an Uber customer would have to just say "yeah ok rapes happen so let me keep taking Uber"?

The point is, Uber is claiming to be better than cabbies in that they screen drivers, etc. Clearly they aren't doing anything of the sort. So they are as unsafe as taking any other cab.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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i'm not sure why it's Uber's fault. in the uk, Uber drivers are all registered taxi drivers, because of regulations. it's not Uber's fault that the indian market is not as strictly regulated, and that one of their drivers did this. Not that i'm saying it's ok, it's not. but uber seems to be catching a lot of flak for things they haven't done. sure they probably could have done more to prevent it, but so could the gov…

Uber hired drivers in India who does not even have a valid Delhi Transport commercial driver license required for all cab drivers in Delhi.

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> and the amount of rape happening in india is crazy, the government needs to do something about that, something more than blaming uber.

Do you know that more women are raped every year in UK & US than in India? You hear a lot more about rapes in India because Indians are more outraged towards rape than Americans & British.

Rate per 100,000 population: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#UN_Rape_statist...

United Kingdom (England and Wales): 28.8

United States of America : 27.3

According to some surveys, 20% to 25% girls on American colleges campuses suffer sexual assault.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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i'm not sure why it's Uber's fault. in the uk, Uber drivers are all registered taxi drivers, because of regulations. it's not Uber's fault that the indian market is not as strictly regulated, and that one of their drivers did this. Not that i'm saying it's ok, it's not. but uber seems to be catching a lot of flak for things they haven't done. sure they probably could have done more to prevent it, but so could the gov…

It's Uber's fault because they claim to screen their drivers' backgrounds for criminal activity, including sexual assault. This driver raped a woman in a taxi he was driving in 2011, which Uber either didn't know or didn't care about.

Pretty reasonable to expect Uber to detect and prevent people like that from driving cars for them, I think.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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i'm not sure why it's Uber's fault. in the uk, Uber drivers are all registered taxi drivers, because of regulations. it's not Uber's fault that the indian market is not as strictly regulated, and that one of their drivers did this. Not that i'm saying it's ok, it's not. but uber seems to be catching a lot of flak for things they haven't done. sure they probably could have done more to prevent it, but so could the gov…

The way I understand it Indian market is regulated, but Uber failed to comply with the regulations.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Uber is not being banned just because of this rape incident. Uber did not following Indian laws & Delhi transport regulations, and operated illegally under the radar. Before this incident, Delhi Government was not aware about how Uber operated. This incident prompted Indian authorities to investigate the operations of Uber. Uber's stance is that we are not a taxi company, we are an app company; so we do not need to f…

No sexual offenses

From the article: "Uber, which had employed the driver even though he had been arrested on allegations of sexual assault three years ago"

THe implication there is that he had not been convicted of any offense - which means no sexual offense was [in the eyes of the law...] committed.

I'm of two minds on this. On the one hand yeah, he was arrested for it and convicted or not, that's probably a risk Uber shouldn't be taking.

The other side of that an accusation or suspicion isn't a reasonable basis on which to ruin someone's employability.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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Uber is not being banned just because of this rape incident. Uber did not following Indian laws & Delhi transport regulations, and operated illegally under the radar. Before this incident, Delhi Government was not aware about how Uber operated. This incident prompted Indian authorities to investigate the operations of Uber. Uber's stance is that we are not a taxi company, we are an app company; so we do not need to f…

I don't quite understand the wording on the website. The article said the driver was acquitted; would a proper screening still have disqualified him, given his acquittal?

Quick disclaimer: clearly, given what you said, Uber needs to dramatically change how it operates in India, and thorough background checks are hugely important for a commercial transport service. I'm just wondering if it would have been enough to prevent this particular crime from happening.

Re: Uber banned from operating in Indian capital after rape accusation

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i'm not sure why it's Uber's fault. in the uk, Uber drivers are all registered taxi drivers, because of regulations. it's not Uber's fault that the indian market is not as strictly regulated, and that one of their drivers did this. Not that i'm saying it's ok, it's not. but uber seems to be catching a lot of flak for things they haven't done. sure they probably could have done more to prevent it, but so could the gov…

That's certainly an ethical code, but a severely lacking one in my opinion. I try to give my business to companies who actually make an attempt to act in an ethical manner, rather than ones who base their ethics and practices on the minimum required government regulations.
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