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Piratebay strikes back

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Re: Piratebay strikes back

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Is there actually controversy here? I thought that the anti-piracy boys had more or less entrenched themselves as antagonists in the public mindset.

look at it from both sides- wouldnt be in court if it wasnt controversial

lol, yes it would

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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Agreed. Not being able to skip that (and other) crap on DVDs is infuriating! It's really one of my pet peeves.

If you don't mind using a PC as a DVD player, AnyDvd strips all that stuff out (along with region coding and most other DRM)

and then you burn the stripped video back and put it in your home theater.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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To be honest, I hope these guys are going to jail. You must be a fool to believe that they don't own the pirate bay anymore, or are not associated with the keyman islands shell company running the company. Alone mininova disclosed making > 1 million of profit a year, piratebay's profit must be much bigger, all from the copyrighted works of others. Most of you wouldn't support piratebay anymore if your program/source…

I understand your position, but the thing is that there is no proof for either of the claims you are making:

* Not that they own TPB (the Swedish IRS have even concluded that they do not.)

* Not that TPB are making any money. While they must have some revenue (from banner clicks), it is not at all certain that it exceeds the costs of running the website.

It's possible for both claims to be true, but it's not proven. I, for one, do not wish people who haven't been proven guilty to go to jail. I certainly don't think that your hunch that they probably do own it should suffice.

As a bonus, keep in mind that the crime they're charged with is is something as flimsy as "aiding" unspecified crimes against copyright — that's right, the copyright crimes that they are supposed to have aided are unspecified, and nobody has been accused of committing those.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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I think it would more apt if both sides go to jail, neither is the answer to the future of artistic works. On one side a bunch of cartels that IMO should be investigated by the monopolies and mergers commission and on the other freetards that don't provide a realistic revenue model for artists.

The pirates aren't freetards. I resent your accusation. The current model isn't working if it's so easily subverted. The solution is to figure out a model that's pirate-proof. They exist.

Spotify is huge in Sweden, TPB's home. According to a survey, [the vast majority] of Spotify users have stopped pirating. I think this proves you are right.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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I'm happy for the guys behind pirate bay they are making a killing, every time an article like this crops up on pages like this or digg/reddit its more marketing. start-ups take note- controversial is king!

Why do you think they are making a killing?

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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I think it would more apt if both sides go to jail, neither is the answer to the future of artistic works. On one side a bunch of cartels that IMO should be investigated by the monopolies and mergers commission and on the other freetards that don't provide a realistic revenue model for artists.

The pirates aren't freetards. I resent your accusation. The current model isn't working if it's so easily subverted. The solution is to figure out a model that's pirate-proof. They exist.

Pirate-proof in the sense that works can't be pirated? Or pirate-proof in the sense that piracy is unnecessary because works are already free? I'm pretty sure the former is impossible.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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I think it would more apt if both sides go to jail, neither is the answer to the future of artistic works. On one side a bunch of cartels that IMO should be investigated by the monopolies and mergers commission and on the other freetards that don't provide a realistic revenue model for artists.

The pirates aren't freetards. I resent your accusation. The current model isn't working if it's so easily subverted. The solution is to figure out a model that's pirate-proof. They exist.

Sorry, I probably wasn't very clear there.

Not all pirates are freetards, i'm talking about the two ends of the spectrum here. I am a pirate for example but I also subscribe to EMusic and make a point of buying direct from artists when I can and seeing bands live. Some people however are loathe to do this as well and believe that content should always be free.

As it stands both models are somewhat flawed and neither are the way forward in their present state.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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The pirates aren't freetards. I resent your accusation. The current model isn't working if it's so easily subverted. The solution is to figure out a model that's pirate-proof. They exist.

Pirate-proof in the sense that works can't be pirated? Or pirate-proof in the sense that piracy is unnecessary because works are already free? I'm pretty sure the former is impossible.

The former's impossible in the paradigm where the only way to make money off music is to sell songs. That's not true, though.

A few of the models I'm going to be experimenting with: Raising money before you release an album, with certain perks given to people that pay the money for release. Offering special exclusives that people can choose to pay for, that most people interested in just music won't bother pirating. That's why I'm excited for the iTunes LP: It's an idea that's worth money even after you own the music, that appeals to fans and less to casual criminals.

I'm currently thinking of launching an ARG with a future music project. I think that launching a video game through an album distribution would be really fun and potentially really profitable.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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BREIN is the organisation that puts inane 'Downloading is theft' (which it a simple lie, as any lawyer can tell you) commercials at the start of movies in the cinema and on DVD - not possible to skip them of course! Talking down to their paying public like they do, it's like they really WANT people to stop paying for movies and pirate them.

as any lawyer can tell you As a point of order they would almost certainly tell you it a) depends on the country, b) has been untested in the majority of countries so it is neither right nor wrong and anyway it probably would count as theft in a civil case sense. However I agree BREIN are a bit crazy - and the video they add to DVD's is inane. On the other hand better that than suing individuals I suppose :D (even th…

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Re: Piratebay strikes back

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post #30

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The pirates aren't freetards. I resent your accusation. The current model isn't working if it's so easily subverted. The solution is to figure out a model that's pirate-proof. They exist.

Sorry, I probably wasn't very clear there. Not all pirates are freetards, i'm talking about the two ends of the spectrum here. I am a pirate for example but I also subscribe to EMusic and make a point of buying direct from artists when I can and seeing bands live. Some people however are loathe to do this as well and believe that content should always be free. As it stands both models are somewhat flawed and neither…

Okay, that makes sense. :-)

My policy is, I buy from artists who I feel aren't big. I bought Joanna Newsom's album for a friend of mine after I downloaded it, and I just got a song from Pomplamoose, which is a crazy duo I found on Youtube. When I feel like my money's going to a good cause, then I pay.

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