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Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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My honest answer? I ended up dating someone who was constantly on my case about being forgetful, forgetting names, details, being scatter brained, blah blah blah. Miraculously, that didn't drive them away and, now, just over a year of dating later, I've noticed I've developed new mental habits to train myself to remember details, in order to avoid the negative reinforcement of my S.O. nagging about my forgetfulness.…

This is actually a great answer. The same thing happened to me, and I think it was almost natural based on how our opposing personalities balanced. This balance has turned out to be greatly beneficial to the both of us—she helps keep me focused and improve my skills in the scatterbrain area, and I help her branch out and be more spontaneous and creative at times. Works great.

It doesn't have to be a romantic relationship that does this—I've worked with people whose personalities balanced out mine, and together we had a similar good thing going on. Creativity and ability for the mind to wander is a great thing for inspiration and discovery, and then bringing in the focus is great for making ideas real.

So, seek out other people who balance your personality. The fact that your mind works the way it does is not necessarily bad, and there are people all around you who can compliment you.

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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You might be INTP. FInd out and if you are, find a community of them. It helped me. And to put it succinctly, minimize your information firehoses and reject the notion that you need to keep abreast of everything even if it is not relevant to you. Purge all of your reading lists and resist building them. If you keep any lists or bookmarks, require that they be things you HAVE read and want to keep as reference for lat…

I don't think information addiction has anything to do with a particular Meyers-Brigg personality type. They seem like an orthogonal axes. If anything, I would imagine INTP are less likely to have this issue, because they are interesting in meaning and not just information. I would think the more social personality types would be more addicted to news or e-mail, but that's just speculation.

One thing I do is take notes on most things I read. Just a couple sentences. This helps in several ways:

1) If you're not willing to take notes on something, it's not worth reading. So you read less.

2) It limits your rate of consumption, because writing takes time. So you read slower.

3) Having it written down and organized reduces the burden on your brain. It's like the GTD system. You want to relieve your brain of holding information. Your brain will know it is one click away if you have organized your notes properly.

4) When writing notes, you are relating it to things you already know. It forces recall. This prevents your brain from being just a jumble of useless disconnected facts.

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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For a long time I felt (and now feel) the same as you. I just wanted to share an experience that, while completely anecdotal, is perhaps atypical, and has been one of the defining experiences of my life.

I got the Internet as a birthday present on my 8th birthday, and pretty much disappeared from normal society for the next few years. The Internet was (and is) fascinating - I could learn anything, interact with people I'd never met with, and, notably, do adult things without anyone doubting me because I was young.

But as I got older, the Internet, and therefore my mind, just got busier. Eventually it was not only random articles and a few chatrooms, but dozens of apps and sites that are programmed to give us a dopamine hit. Being online to me feels like walking around in a casino trying not to gamble.

I don't think I concentrated on one thing for more than 20 minutes for years, and outside of school I didn't have to. So I just convinced myself that school was archaic, skipped as much class as I could, and ended up a mental butterfly. It was working for me.

Except for when I wanted to get stuff done. I probably started learning to program 100 times, but I would get distracted with cat pictures or something, and even though I loved computers more than anything else, I couldn't do much to create with them. I was diagnosed with ADHD, but I didn't really care; I don't think that experience is unique to either me or people who have been diagnosed with ADHD.

Then, all of the sudden, I went on a Mormon mission in eastern Ukraine. Two years with 30 minutes of Internet a week (at an Internet club 45 mins away from my apartment). My entire life was structured in a way I never would have structured it in order to get me to concentrate on the things I considered most important for that period of time.

My mind slowed down - in an almost literal sense. I had only finished a couple of books in my entire life before the mission, and on the mission I could easily read the Old Testament for hours on end, paying attention to intricacies of text I never would have realized before.

Then I got home. I jumped on Facebook, and right back into my old habits. My mind was gone for weeks. Not gone in the sense that I wasn't learning anything -- I would pick up tidbits here and there, but I never got deep enough into anything to make any of that learning useful. It terrified me.

So now I spend a lot of time on very strict information diets. I severely limit my time on HN, Reddit, Facebook. I try to keep my reading on a Kindle so the Internet isn't even an option. I would love for someone to create an app (that works) that limits what sites I can use so I can go into "wired in" mode when I'm programming.

In short, don't be afraid to place restrictions on yourself. Let your mind slow down.

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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I cut out reading (24 hour) news this year. I no longer read bbc news, my local papers etc. I figured (and it's true) important things tend to get mentioned (either on HN, or just in conversation etc.)

There's also the idea of the "circle of influence" (i.e. worry / do something with the things you can _actually_ influence, forget about the rest - slightly comes back to the 24 hour news thing for me). Perhaps you might enjoy reading "The 7 Habits of Highly effective people"

Good luck :) You're certainly not alone.

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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My mind is the same way inside. It's never quiet, and it's terribly annoying.

To start, minimize intake. When I tried to stay on top of things, I found it weighed me down, limited productivity, and didn't _really_ help. Skimming topics is almost as useful as actually reading them. The benefit there is that you acquire a lot of assorted bits of background info, which might come in handy. But you don't need to deep dive and worry about getting through all the material. Just knowing it's there is enough. And even then, consider limiting the scope.

The whole "being informed, having an opinion, arguing" -- it's really not productive. I look back over all my HN interactions, and the vast majority of it isn't really productive. Your opinions don't matter, and nor do the arguments. If I spent the time I've wasted saying shit on HN doing something useful (even reading fiction books), it'd have been better spent. (Now reading threads I've learned a lot, and getting some of my statements corrected has been useful.) But there must be some low-level psychological drive, since here I am. Mostly it comes from periods of boredom or depression, where I can't get over the initial impulse to work. Eliezer covers it here[1].

When I've taken HN breaks for extended periods of time, and I don't fill in that gap with another "news" source, I start to feel more peaceful, focused, content.

1: http://lesswrong.com/lw/3kv/working_hurts_less_than_procrast...

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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post #19

For me: Pick some system for dealing with stuff. I dont think it much matters which one you do as long as you have one and it isnt based on stuff actively being in your brain. Mine is inbox 0/4Ds whatever you want to call it, with me allowing myself to put tasks for me in there. Most of those systems focus on aggressive prioritization and removing lists of tasks from your mind and moving them to paper. Be aggressive…

This is the right way. A system allows you to unload your brain and get all the crap out of the way, so you can stop thinking about it and focus on the task at hand.

As overplayed as it is, GTD really is pretty good. It basically boils down to: keep lists, use them religiously, and focus on one thing at a time. But the book itself is good and goes into significantly more detail, all of which is useful.

Any system will do, as long as it's trustworthy, and you actually commit to using it.

As W. Edwards Deming said, "A bad system will beat a good person, every time." Couldn't be more true. You can try try try to be as good as you will yourself to be on your own, but regardless, even a poorly implemented system can do better than you can on your own. This applies to many aspects of work, and your own system is just the beginning.

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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post #5

I really recommend meditation. Other than that, you just need to accept that you'll never be able go through it all. And prioritize what's most important to your life. And sometimes just lay it all aside and recharge. But meditation has really healped me with all of these. And in the end it's quite of a high-quality problem.

+1

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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For a long time I felt (and now feel) the same as you. I just wanted to share an experience that, while completely anecdotal, is perhaps atypical, and has been one of the defining experiences of my life. I got the Internet as a birthday present on my 8th birthday, and pretty much disappeared from normal society for the next few years. The Internet was (and is) fascinating - I could learn anything, interact with peopl…

http://selfcontrolapp.com/

Works well. It cannot be turned off and you can set it for a specific amount of time. You choose the websites you would like to block.

Your phone is obviously a weak point, but it's a start.

Re: Ask HN: How can I remedy scatter brain and information overload?

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I use a page on a tool like OneNote or Evernote to write every day the notes that pop up on my head, or interesting information I read. Then, during 1hour of the weekend, I grab that page and a) trash the info that actually doesn't matter b) save the info that I think it's useful, in a certain section (Startup ideas; Biz Dev strategies; etc)

I also use Pocket to save articles to read later, but overtime I became more agressive in filtering what to read. If I don't feel to read it, I just trash it. Now it's kind of a habit. (I still do have articles saved in Pocket from several weeks before. But they are MUCH less.)

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