The committee is probably thinking Obama will now need to live up to the prize--if is isn't a real peacemaking dude from here out, people will certainly whine.
Yes, just see how well it worked for Yasser Arafat...
Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
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Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does seem awfully fast, but for what it's worth: 1) He banned torture (waterboarding) 2) He wants to close Guantanamo. I know he hasn't done it yet, but it can't be easy. 3) He's willing to negotiate with Iran without pre-conditions 4) He's actually trying to push for a Middle East peace deal, and is being vocal about settlements 5) He wants a world without nukes. 6) He didn't put the missile shield near Russia, s…
2) He wants to close Guantanamo. I know he hasn't done it yet, but it can't be easy. It's not about being easy or hard, but about the gigantic class action civil suit awaiting the U.S. government the minute they release them.
And rightly so.
You break it you get to buy it. It's amazing that so many people bought in to that stuff under Bush, I always thought that if there is one thing America will forever have to live with then it is Gitmo. Just like the Dutch have their colonial crimes and the Germans have world war II.
Some things can not be excused. Keeping people imprisoned without due process is such a crime that history will definitely remember, and that's besides the 'details' such as torturing them.
And doing it on foreign soil so you can pretend it's not an American thing is even more disgusting. If you do a thing like that at least have the balls to do it in your own country. And if that is impossible then don't do it.
Someone ought to end up in the Hague over that one.
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
This sort of commentary is why we avoid politics here.
But Glenn Beck is an emotionally driven and controversial talking-head hacker!
I don't know why you saying this , but from what I learned from his shows, he is trying to work with facts and only with facts.
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#34He didn't deserve that - he haven't even closed gitmo yet.
Like someone said on Twitter: I just played Solitaire on my computer. And goddammit Obama won that too.
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#35Apparently, there were a record number of nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize: 172 people and 33 organizations.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20090227/120342505.html
Unfortunately, the list of names won't be revealed for 50 years.
Without the list, it's hard to compare everyone's accomplishments.
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi David, I wasn't the first to start this thread but once it was started I am adding comments that are relative to the context.
No one here is going to defend Glen Beck, so at best it would just be a one-sided conversation congratulating ourselves for realizing how irrational he is. This doesn't seem like a productive use of anyone's time.
> No one here is going to defend Glen Beck,
I wouldn't be so sure. Which would turn it into an exasperating thread, and be an even bigger waste of time, and change no one's opinions. Which is what 99% of politics discussions are on the internet.
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#37Nit pick : Could the original poster or moderator fix the typo in the title? Price -> Prize
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#38I am watching Glenn Beck show on Fox News every evening, he revealed that Obama has inserted a bunch of Marxist into the white house, fellows that admires Hugo Chavez , Lenin , Che and other nice dictators that are responsible for most of the blood in last century.
Yeah I saw it also , it is really based on facts
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#39He didn't deserve that - he haven't even closed gitmo yet.
It does seem awfully fast, but for what it's worth: 1) He banned torture (waterboarding) 2) He wants to close Guantanamo. I know he hasn't done it yet, but it can't be easy. 3) He's willing to negotiate with Iran without pre-conditions 4) He's actually trying to push for a Middle East peace deal, and is being vocal about settlements 5) He wants a world without nukes. 6) He didn't put the missile shield near Russia, s…
> But considering how leaders of Superpowers have behaved in the past, he is unique.
Yes, he is unique. As is everybody else.
Uniqueness is not a reason to give someone a prize, achievement is.
And from where I'm sitting the only thing that has changed is that the American President is no longer making a fool of himself on the international stage and hasn't made the rest of the world wonder if he still has all his marbles.
But to give him a prize for that belies the people that have in some cases paid with their lives for achieving their goals, and then to be awarded their 'prize' 30 years after the fact.
There should be some honour in being awarded a prize, this is more like an incentive to keep going.
Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize
#40Not really hacker news in any case. It looks like politics and current events.
A bunch of the nobel prize winners have been posted here over the past few days. True, this one is more politically charged, but it seems to fit within that trend.