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Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

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Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#11
Hey look, the cancer is spreading.

Though, I'm sure that the people here will justify Uber's merely superficial bad behavior. After all, silicon valley can do no evil, and accumulating profit at all costs is the best way to advance human society, right? Stay classy HN.

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#12

Wow. $40 Billion valuation, hiring 1 million people in the coming year, opening new sites at the rate of almost 1/day. Neither Travis Kalanick or any current senior execs sold any stock in the current round. Uber will either be the biggest boom or bust story there's been in quite some time. This will be fun to watch.

Have any of the released Uber decks show when profitability is expected and what their run rate is? Curious how long VC money can fund cheap rides for.

The rides are not really cheap. At best, in nyc, uber x is advertised to be cheaper than a taxi but that is really not always the case.

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#14
Investment rounds like this worry me - Uber is already doing fine, and making money. An injection of cash like this will help them expand to new markets (fine) and also absolutely flatten competition in existing markets (bad).

They could drop the price of Uber X (again) but absorb the cost to drivers, edging Lyft out of the market. As long as they beat Lyft before the investment cash runs out, they win the market and are free to raise prices again. I don't want Uber to become the new taxi monopoly off the back of VC cash.

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#15
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have any of the released Uber decks show when profitability is expected and what their run rate is? Curious how long VC money can fund cheap rides for.

The rides are not really cheap. At best, in nyc, uber x is advertised to be cheaper than a taxi but that is really not always the case.

Forgive my terribly silly question then. If Uber is skirting the regulatory cost of a medallion for each vehicle in service, why is the cost the same as a taxi paying that expense?

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#16

It's a popular meme in tech journalism that Uber is "under attack" for its nefarious business practices, but how much has this sense pervaded outside the tech bubble?

Its bubbled up to the New York Times. Otherwise, if fails my "mom test", so its still a niche service IMO.

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#18
post #7

How much does Uber spend? How could they possibly need to raise that much?

Uber spends a lot to acquire new drivers. They hire staff to recruit them, give them a new phone, and give the driver a signing bonus.

The drivers pay for the phones now, by the way, at $10/week deducted automatically from their fares. They also recently released the driver app for iOS and Android for personal phones, too, so they (and the drivers) can forgo some of that cost.

They've also changed their take rate on drivers. New drivers IIRC are at 25%, older partners are at 20%, but maybe this varies on city.

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#19
post #6

Honest question: what is the return multiple that an investor expect when he/she invests in a $40bi valuation? If Angels & Seed expect 100x; VC expect 10x; I imagine these investors expect as much as a common stock exchange investor: 1.2x a year?

My guess would be a $100b market-cap IPO in the next 12-18 months is what they're hoping for. Long enough to grow more, but quickly enough to get out before the regulatory hammer starts to fall.

Re: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round, Looks to Asia for Expansion

#20
It's crazy to think a certain venture capital firm could have invested around $50 million in late 2011 for just over 12% of the company—a stake that'd be valued at around $5 billion now—but quibbling over the valuation killed the deal.

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2014/12/uber-travis-kalan...

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