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"If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you're not a human." Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I've tripped their "we think you are a bot" detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, a…
"If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you're not a human." Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I've tripped their "we think you are a bot" detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, a…
Why shouldn't us bots be able to search or participate in forums?
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https://duckduckgo.com/
DDG is excellent most of the time, but way behind when doing video or map searches. I have it as my default in most places, but sometimes I just have to fall back to Google.
"!g hacker news"
It's hard to see what's sent over the wire (it's obfuscated), but the source gives you a good idea of what they're collecting. The biggie is the GA cookie which is running on over 10 million sites. Like any CAPTCHA, this is still breakable -- just load your actual cookies into Selenium or PhantomJS and replay your mouse movements. Of course, once you do that more than a couple times, you'll likely have to write a crawlers to generate fresh cookies. At that point, you may as well just break the visual CAPTCHA which is trivial anyway. Ie. You should still never use a CAPTCHA (http://www.onlineaspect.com/2010/07/02/why-you-should-never-...).
Here's the JavaScript behind it: https://www.gstatic.com/recaptcha/api2/r20141202135649/recap... It's hard to see what's sent over the wire (it's obfuscated), but the source gives you a good idea of what they're collecting. The biggie is the GA cookie which is running on over 10 million sites. Like any CAPTCHA, this is still breakable -- just load your actual cookies into Selenium or PhantomJS and replay your mouse m…
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You are entitled. Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? For the last few years it's felt like nothing more than a petty "you're wrong" remark with bonus condensation built right in.
Do you mean condescension? Not trying to be a smart ass, I just got a chuckle out of the word choice.
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Sorry, as much as I tried to like it, the results just don't match what I need...
Because they don't make any money, because only the sorts of shitty practises people often complain about are what enables making money providing free services. If enough people were actually willing to pay to use a search engine you could have an awesome search engine with none of that.
They've been doing this for a while. With recaptcha, you got easier captchas (a single street number instead of two words) if the system thought you were human. There was an official post about this a year ago. [1] Now they have probably improved the system enough to be confident in not showing captcha at all. It's nothing revolutionary. If it thinks you're a robot, you still get the old captcha. [2] [1] http://googl…
One example: I have never seen a "hard" captcha here https://webchat.freenode.net/
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Google's services are free. By trying to redefine what free actually means into 'has no cost whatsoever to anyone' you ruin the word.
If you trade a fish for a service it isn't free. If you trade a gold bar for a service it isn't free. If you trade a service for a service it isn't free. If you trade data for a service it is not free. To consider "free" a function only of fiat currency is naive, both of history and of economics. Google search is not free. If it is I have no idea how they made so much money... Or maybe you can tell me what 'free actu…
My guess is it's based on the tracking data they already collect on most people. I try to avoid it, so I get stuff like this: http://i.imgur.com/6mGYsav.png I have no idea what that second word is supposed to be, so if you use this, I probably won't use your site.