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Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

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Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

#31

I think it's time to build my first app. This has to be the least intimidating frameworks I've seen. Can't wait to see how fast it is to use!

> I think it's time to build my first app. This has to be the least intimidating frameworks I've seen. Can't wait to see how fast it is to use!

I am all for publicizing/celebrating loudly products built by startups. But please edit for full disclosure to facilitate better discussions (if you are N.M. from Appgyver).

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

#32
"FUTURE-PROOFED FOR IOS & ANDROID When you use Supersonic, you can be sure you are using the most up-to-date visual and functional paradigms of both platforms. That means iOS8 and Android KitKat today, and future-proofed for the next generations."

Like Lollipop never happened.

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

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Frameworks upon frameworks upon frameworks, running in a platform-dependent embedded mobile browser, wrapped together with AppGyver-specific API thunks for accessing some native functionality in a non-standard way. There's tremendous impedance mismatch at every layer here. I don't feel these deeply convoluted stacks are ever the right way to build a mobile app... Unless perhaps in the situation where you're already f…

I agree with the second paragraph. It seems that we're constantly pushing to make developing mobile apps easier for people with a web front-end background, in doing so tying them into using a stack of frameworks that in my opinion is far enough removed from 'web' that it loses sight of the core advantage - that it is easier to learn and develop with than the 'native' alternatives. I wonder if by the time you get to t…

This type product fits a specific niche. If you are a small team with a lot of web experience, no mobile experience, and only enough funds for one guy to work on your mobile app, then this might be a good choice. While there are some technologies that would need to be learned to build on this stack, it's meeting you half way as a web dev, so it will still be a lot faster than learning native dev from scratch. You will also save a lot of time by only coding for one platform instead of two.

A stack like this though may not be the best approach to maintain as the user base and dev team size grows, but it will get you off the ground with limited resources and time.

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

#34

I think it's time to build my first app. This has to be the least intimidating frameworks I've seen. Can't wait to see how fast it is to use!

I thought the same, and made a Cordova/Angular app. It was a mistake. Don't go there! It's easier to learn the native languages/sdk than to debug that mess.

Also, cocoa touch is nicer than any web framework you've ever used.

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

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post #5

Frameworks upon frameworks upon frameworks, running in a platform-dependent embedded mobile browser, wrapped together with AppGyver-specific API thunks for accessing some native functionality in a non-standard way. There's tremendous impedance mismatch at every layer here. I don't feel these deeply convoluted stacks are ever the right way to build a mobile app... Unless perhaps in the situation where you're already f…

Have you ever actually watched an episode of MacGyver? I feel like if you have, this "AppGyver" project sounds like it has just about the right amount of duct tape.

http://macgyver.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_problems_solved_by_Ma...

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

#36
post #34

I think it's time to build my first app. This has to be the least intimidating frameworks I've seen. Can't wait to see how fast it is to use!

I thought the same, and made a Cordova/Angular app. It was a mistake. Don't go there! It's easier to learn the native languages/sdk than to debug that mess. Also, cocoa touch is nicer than any web framework you've ever used.

I am not an expert. I just started with Ionic and got a simple App running in a few hours.

How can native development be easier, when I'm already familiar with web development in HTML, CSS, JS/AngularJS? What did you miss when debugging?

If you're only targeting one platform, the time spent to learn developing for it may be justified. But I don't see why you should not use tools like Ionic or Supersonic when building data driven apps for multiple platforms.

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

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Frameworks upon frameworks upon frameworks, running in a platform-dependent embedded mobile browser, wrapped together with AppGyver-specific API thunks for accessing some native functionality in a non-standard way. There's tremendous impedance mismatch at every layer here. I don't feel these deeply convoluted stacks are ever the right way to build a mobile app... Unless perhaps in the situation where you're already f…

I agree with the second paragraph. It seems that we're constantly pushing to make developing mobile apps easier for people with a web front-end background, in doing so tying them into using a stack of frameworks that in my opinion is far enough removed from 'web' that it loses sight of the core advantage - that it is easier to learn and develop with than the 'native' alternatives. I wonder if by the time you get to t…

It's still early in the development of mobile stacks. It might be a huge risk to use a completely new framework built on another framework right now but in a few years it might have evolved to the standard way of doing things. If they get the tooling and own code to a stable state where everything just works it might save a lot of developer time. Or it might be safer to just go with Cordova or similar and use any UI and JS framework you like (that is stable enough).

Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova

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post #35
post #5

Frameworks upon frameworks upon frameworks, running in a platform-dependent embedded mobile browser, wrapped together with AppGyver-specific API thunks for accessing some native functionality in a non-standard way. There's tremendous impedance mismatch at every layer here. I don't feel these deeply convoluted stacks are ever the right way to build a mobile app... Unless perhaps in the situation where you're already f…

Have you ever actually watched an episode of MacGyver? I feel like if you have, this "AppGyver" project sounds like it has just about the right amount of duct tape. http://macgyver.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_problems_solved_by_Ma...

Reminds me more of MacGruber:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mccruber

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