Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

Post by SiVal » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 8:59 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #290

001sky wrote: post #254

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Isn't this just the cost of having a "free" product? Bots are not really a problem. Its just that their traffic cannot be monetized. If you could monetize-bot traffic your problem would be solved. Or put another way, if you framed the issue as a business model one, not a technical one, it might be a useful exercise.

> if you framed the issue as a business model one, not > a technical one, it might be a useful exercise. That was kind of my point. Clearly most of the bots are trying to scrape my search engine for some specific data. I would (generally) be happy to just sell them that data rather than have them waste time trying to scrape us (that is the business model, which goes something like "Hey we have a copy of the big chunk…

Post by the_af » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:01 PM UTC

roc wrote: post #244

jotm wrote: post #226

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I've also tripped Google's bot filters. Frankly, I'm more offended that Google is discriminating against robots, seeing as they are one of the leading companies in automation and AI :-)

Though you were joking, it's worth noting they're certainly not discriminating against robots. They're discriminating against your robots. Which is to say: they're perfectly willing to let your crawl-able content and internet use help train their robots, they just don't want their crawl-able content and internet use to train your robots.

Post by ertdfgcb » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:03 PM UTC

ademarre wrote: post #277

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Check out webvisum.com - from their website: "WebVisum is a unique browser add on which greatly enhances web accessibility and empowers the blind and visually impaired community by putting the control in your hands!" "Automated and instant CAPTCHA image solving, sign up to web sites and make forum posts and blog comments without asking for help!"

> Automated and instant CAPTCHA image solving How do they do that? This sounds like whitehat use of blackhat tools. Are they using captcha-solving farms?

Post by jamespo » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:08 PM UTC

TallGuyShort wrote: post #291

andylei wrote: post #248

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i'm sure no one at google thought about that

There's no call for sarcasm. Do you have more insight into what data could allow them to distinguish between bots and people? If you do please share, because the Wired article and Google's own marketing video don't provide much information - it's obviously more focused on marketing than the technology.

Post by joelthelion » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:14 PM UTC

dlss wrote: post #271

What am I missing? Breaking this looks much easier than a regular captcha... This is the sort of problem that genetic algorithms are well suited for (a small, well defined input domain with a binary oracle). You'd simply generate a random path, run a smoothing function over it, see if that works, then iterate. edit: does anyone know a site that is actually using this new widget? I only seem to be finding the older ve…