211–220 of 442 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure where cursor movement was mentioned, other than the comments.
I read it in the wired.com article about this also submitted to HN: "And [Vinay] Shet says even the tiny movements a user’s mouse makes as it hovers and approaches a checkbox can help reveal an automated bot."
"If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you're not a human." Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I've tripped their "we think you are a bot" detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, a…
...But this is their core search competency and exactly what makes their search so powerful. Page rank is basically distributed wisdom of crowds, aka algorithm of how people behave (build their websites) based on a search term/imbedded link.
This seems like a perfect extension of this. Remember the vision of google: "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." Human behavior falls squarely into a large segment of the "world's information."
"If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you're not a human." Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I've tripped their "we think you are a bot" detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, a…
Why shouldn't us bots be able to search or participate in forums?
"If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you're not a human." Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I've tripped their "we think you are a bot" detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, a…
The fact that Google is attempting to define and thus strongly normalise what is human behaviour is definitely a big red flag to me. ...But this is their core search competency and exactly what makes their search so powerful. Page rank is basically distributed wisdom of crowds, aka algorithm of how people behave (build their websites) based on a search term/imbedded link. This seems like a perfect extension of this.…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and it's frankly very insulting and rather disturbing that they think someone who inputs "unusual" search queries, according to their measure, is not human. Insulting? how is that insulting? You are entitled. You are entitled you block scripts, use Google's FREE service to perform any search query to search the web while blocking any program that attempts to identify you as not a bot. But if while using their free…
see no evil. here no evil. speak no evil.
It's definitely not only relying on cursor movements. A simple $('iframe').contents().find('.recaptcha-checkbox-checkmark').click() proved that I'm not a robot, without me touching the mouse.
The cursor movement story seems to be a smokescreen to dilute the fact they're actually running an internet wide monitoring network, tracking users from site to site and building profiles on them.
They've been doing this for a while. With recaptcha, you got easier captchas (a single street number instead of two words) if the system thought you were human. There was an official post about this a year ago. [1] Now they have probably improved the system enough to be confident in not showing captcha at all. It's nothing revolutionary. If it thinks you're a robot, you still get the old captcha. [2] [1] http://googl…
Am I being paranoid when I think that offering this "free" service is a great way to track people over even more sites and usually the most important conversion pages that don't have the usual google display ads. I don't see a big technological innovation here as it appears that mostly they are checking your cookies to see if they recognize you.