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Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

Nib wrote: post #92

Hmmmm. Nice move Google. But I also remember that a machine passed the Turing test. And I don't like the sound of these two news together. Not because I'm worried about you, but because I'm worried about the websites I run as a dev. Moreover, I'm not sure if most people know this, but reCaptcha was supposed to be converting ancient text to digital text[I read that once on quora, I'm not really sure if it's entirely t…

ha yeah that was definitely the original purpose/project of reCAPTCHA.... but I think shortly after the google purchase, the AI got so good at reading garbled ancient texts that G allowed it to move on to other things..like house numbers.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by ep103 »

cJ0th wrote: post #107
Pwntastic wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only used to generate a confidence level. "In cases when the risk analysis engine can't confidently predict whether a user is a human or an abusive agent, it will prompt a CAPTCHA to elicit more cues" So if you have cookies disabled, you'll probably just get a regular captcha

okay, that's reasonable.

That's not reasonable, its yet another way google is monitoring everything I do online.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by xkiwi »

It rise privacy concern for me.

If real name and email validation is mandatory, I will wonder what Google will use that data for. Is that some kind of monitor tool which want to know REAL NAME, EMAIL ADDR whenever you want to use a website?

Don't forget Google always beg for your telephone number for "security reasons", Google+ wants your real name for "Policy reason", I upgraded one of my Nexus to Android L, and everything I do has to sign in: some game(Botanicula for instant) work fine without internet in Android 4.4.4 but requires internet signin in Android L.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by cJ0th »

ep103 wrote: post #132
cJ0th wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

okay, that's reasonable.

That's not reasonable, its yet another way google is monitoring everything I do online.

well yes and no. In a way it is a win-win situation: It is reasonable in that it doesn't aggravate the situation for those who block cookies. (yet) And those that allow cookies get at least some convenience in return for that.

However, looking from a different perspective you can say that they're taking advantage of people blind with greed who want maximum convenience when using the web.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by ryandvm »

cheshire137 wrote: post #9

I wish they would explain more about how the user interacts with the whole reCAPTCHA leads them to know it's a person and not a robot, but maybe they're worried about people writing bots to get around their protections.

Or more likely they realize that explaining that your robot quotient is based on a statistical analysis of the last 6 hours of your browser traffic would probably freak everybody the fuck out.

They're almost certainly using the adwords cookies that get hit from 90% of the sites out there to figure out if you're a bot or not.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by whydoyouthink »

johnward wrote: post #6

The old recaptcha takes good sites and gives them terrible user experience. I tried to order tickets one time on ticketmaster and actually gave up because I couldn't get past the captcha. I hate current captchas with a passion and I hope they finally die. I understand fighting spam but when it completely ruins a user experience it's not worth it. edit: Bury me with no explanation why? Please don't tell me you think t…

"Bury me with no explanation why?" -- because your comment has only the most tangential relation to the linked article.

Downvotes are supposed to penalize uninteresting posts, not just wrong posts. No one likes captchas, and everyone has had shitty experiences with them. Your comment adds nothing to the discussion, doubly so since you're complaining about a type of captcha that has just been replaced!

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by arikrak »

I had my own simple 'captcha' on my site (since recaptcha could be annoying), but now I added recaptcha since it looks like it will be easier on users.

You just need to query recaptcha's service and check if the json string they return contains "success\": true".

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by mcovey »

provemewrong wrote: post #90

They've been doing this for a while. With recaptcha, you got easier captchas (a single street number instead of two words) if the system thought you were human. There was an official post about this a year ago. [1] Now they have probably improved the system enough to be confident in not showing captcha at all. It's nothing revolutionary. If it thinks you're a robot, you still get the old captcha. [2] [1] http://googl…

I've noticed that I get the house numbers when I leave 3rd party cookies enabled, and a much harder, often impossible captcha when they're disabled. Since leaving them off doesn't break much else, I do, and just fill out the harder captchas when I come across one. By the way, you only have to fill out the "known" word, the one that's all twisted and usually impossible to read until you refresh the image 10 times. Even completely omitting the 2nd word, which is the unknown word that OCR couldn't figure out, it will still validate.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Post by rspeer »

_wmd wrote: post #25

Who wants to place bets on the "potential robots" more likely to be those without Google cookies or a Google Account?

I've learned that I'm probably a robot, and it's probably because someone on my subnet hits the rate limits on Google APIs sometimes.

There was one day when it was so convinced, it was giving me impossible captchas just to use Google Search.

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