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Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

#121

I wish they would explain more about how the user interacts with the whole reCAPTCHA leads them to know it's a person and not a robot, but maybe they're worried about people writing bots to get around their protections.

Giving that away will give the bots a head start to figure out how to overcome this new roadblock.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

#123
post #95

It's definitely not only relying on cursor movements. A simple $('iframe').contents().find('.recaptcha-checkbox-checkmark').click() proved that I'm not a robot, without me touching the mouse.

I tried this demo (https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo) in a new incognito window. Then in devtools:

  javascript:if(!window.jQuery||confirm('Overwrite\x20current\x20version?\x20v'+jQuery.fn.jquery))(function(d,s){s=d.createElement('script');s.src='https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.8/jquery.js';(d.head||d.documentElement).appendChild(s)})(document);
  $('iframe').contents().find('.recaptcha-checkbox-checkmark').click()
I got an extra verification (enter two bits of text)

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

#124
post #95

It's definitely not only relying on cursor movements. A simple $('iframe').contents().find('.recaptcha-checkbox-checkmark').click() proved that I'm not a robot, without me touching the mouse.

Are you logged into Google? If you have their cookies it's one indication you're not a robot.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

#125
My guess is it's based on the tracking data they already collect on most people. I try to avoid it, so I get stuff like this:

http://i.imgur.com/6mGYsav.png

I have no idea what that second word is supposed to be, so if you use this, I probably won't use your site.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

#126
post #23

It seems plausible that as more sites adopt this kind of technology, automated web access (e.g. scraping) the web will become harder -- for whatever purpose, good or ill. This has long been an "arms race" between hiding and detection. I can hope that reasonable uses of automation still remain feasible.

You're welcome as long as you're respectful.

Just use a bot with a clear User Agent, not "Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; CPU OS 7_1_2 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/537.51.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) CriOS/36.0.1985.57 Mobile/11D257 Safari/9537.53". And, don't forget to start by reading my /robots.txt. If you behave yourself and abide by the rules, why should I ban your bot?

If for whatever reason I don't want to allow your bot in, you might still try and contact me to ask, and perhaps I could arrange for your bot to scrape my site.

Automated web access to my site must obey my rules because you're using my bandwidth and resources.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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post #103
post #95

It's definitely not only relying on cursor movements. A simple $('iframe').contents().find('.recaptcha-checkbox-checkmark').click() proved that I'm not a robot, without me touching the mouse.

The cursor movement story seems to be a smokescreen to dilute the fact they're actually running an internet wide monitoring network, tracking users from site to site and building profiles on them.

I was confused about all of this until I read your comment. Makes perfect sense now!

Also makes me think that they can dump the whole charade and provide no security check at all, but that'd probably make the service-providers uncomfortable and they lose the user as a source of human-intelligence for classifying things on google image searches.

Re: Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”

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post #103
post #95

It's definitely not only relying on cursor movements. A simple $('iframe').contents().find('.recaptcha-checkbox-checkmark').click() proved that I'm not a robot, without me touching the mouse.

The cursor movement story seems to be a smokescreen to dilute the fact they're actually running an internet wide monitoring network, tracking users from site to site and building profiles on them.

I'm not sure where cursor movement was mentioned, other than the comments.
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