So many colors....and so much text. Are there any pictures at all? Or is my Chinese internet just too slow?
Wire – Modern Communications Network
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#243Am I such an outlier if I use Skype for business, not for leisure? I have clients on three continents and every single one used Skype to communicate about the project. Skype was generally running on every machine as a "watercooler chat"/IRC replacement. Just open groups, give them names and pin them to the sidebar. Done. So I really expected this to be more secure, more portable and LESS designer-driven. Who is even…
We're builing that. Give it a month or so, will spam HN. Want to beta test? :-)
Yes.
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Right now, I have installed on my phone: * Standard text messaging app, for almost everyone. * Google Hangouts, which is a pain to remove and always logs in behind my back. I don't want to chat on my phone, it's just a nuisance. (I wish people would stop talking to me through Hangouts, honestly) * Viber, with a single contact. * LINE, with a single contact. I don't have WhatsApp or Snapchat or whatever, but…
Yeah, totally agree, but looks that users always like to see the wheel being reinvented. It's kind of depressing, why fix what's not broken ?
You're assuming things are not broken.
Skype doesn't work for me. I regularly have video failing or voice failing or Skype refusing to log in on some random subset of combinations of devices on my end and the other end. It's gotten steadily worse over the last decade.
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#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it really matter whether they have encryption a or b? If it is poorly implemented it is unsafe. So either you trust them to do a good job or you don't. Whether someone in marketing knows the name of your favorite encryption doesn't really change that.
One hint of whether that they've poorly implemented it is that they didn't care to choose a preexisting algorithm, or they chose a preexisting algorithm with known weaknesses, or that they chose an algorithm with fiddly parameters without addressing that. I'm much more likely to trust if various indicators suggest they're being sane, reasonable and knowledgeable.
Why do you say they didn't care to use a preexisting algorithm? They claim to be using industry standard encryption, that means they are using existing algorithms that have been vetted and proven to be safe (if properly implemented).
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noöne? really? when did 'no one' become insufficiently clear?
Probably a typo. ‘Ö’ and ‘O’ a very close on a German keyboard.
perhaps, but in it i detect a New Yorker magazine-style use of the dieresis to separate vowels into syllables that a reader might be inclined to pronouce together as a single sound, e.g.: reëlect for re-elect.
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#247That domain name would have been one expensive purchase. I wonder if there's any significant correlation between buying an expensive domain upfront & success rate.
That aside, It has spent most of it's life being parked with ads. https://web.archive.org/web/*/wire.com
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#248Am I such an outlier if I use Skype for business, not for leisure? I have clients on three continents and every single one used Skype to communicate about the project. Skype was generally running on every machine as a "watercooler chat"/IRC replacement. Just open groups, give them names and pin them to the sidebar. Done. So I really expected this to be more secure, more portable and LESS designer-driven. Who is even…
Single data point: I open Skype for one occasion: Monday night, gaming with friends that - for the lack of a better term - "don't know better" (I'd prefer TeamSpeak or Mumble for Gaming - or any other voice chat that doesn't require a G+ account really).
Skype is slow. Ugly. And worst of all: It shoves ads in my face on multiple levels (popups, banners etc). So far I keep it for this weekly use case, but I hope that I will leave it behind 'real soon now'™.
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It's a shame that XMPP didn't save us from this situation. My hunch is that the baseline featureset over federation was too low: no federated medsage history; MUCs are single point of failures. We're trying to fix this with Matrix.org - folks frustrated with yet another communication silo might want to check it out and help us tear down the walls between these gardens. (obvious disclaimer: i help run matrix.org)
What's the 'federated message history' in this list?
The capability to get conversation history over several servers. In Matrix the conversation history is stored by all servers involved in the discussion, and thus it can be retrieved if your own server temporarily goes down. It will also be accessible from all your Matrix-compliant clients, whether they are web or mobile clients.
(edit: disclaimer: I'm also involved with matrix.org)
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#250"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.
> "What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. The usual negative HN top post. I have to disagree. We've moved from irc, to ICQ, to Microsoft Messenger, to ..., to Skype, to (what's hot now), so somehow all those people really DID want another messaging app and even adopted one. > It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. Most of th…
> >"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever.
>The usual negative HN top post.
There's a truth to it. This one, like so many others, brings nothing new to the field. So why do we want it?
> Most of the Skype killers are either crap or crippled in other ways (e.g. Facetime being Apple only).
What's wrong with XMPP/Jabber?
We have a weekly post on new IM platforms, but all of seem to have features which are a subset of XMPP's. Including Skype.