Oh its everywhere! Except... Windows, Linux, BlackBerry, Windows Phone, Web... iOS, OS X and Android is far from everywhere.
#1 issue.
Wire – Modern Communications Network
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#202A skype killer... that doesn't run on windows or linux.
I read the blurb, liked the look and thought "why not?". I clicked download and don't see Linux, or even a browser option. It's not a skype killer - it's more prettier Whatsapp alternative without the market share.
Honestly, if whatsapp did a browser/desktop client I'd be on that before this even got a second look
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Right now, I have installed on my phone: * Standard text messaging app, for almost everyone. * Google Hangouts, which is a pain to remove and always logs in behind my back. I don't want to chat on my phone, it's just a nuisance. (I wish people would stop talking to me through Hangouts, honestly) * Viber, with a single contact. * LINE, with a single contact. I don't have WhatsApp or Snapchat or whatever, but…
I have: * Telegram, with all my contacts (including several rather large group chats) * SMS, for telling new contacts to get Telegram I don't mourn XMPP, it wasn't very nice and especially not very mobile friendly.
Well, that doesn't work either - since it requires other people to switch, or me to use yet another messaging app.
Besides, I don't trust the Telegram guys with their faux security claims.
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#204Am I the only one who realised there is no videochat in Wire?
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram seems to put their money where their mouth is.
I think Telegram is the best messaging app out there.
I think once Open Whisper Systems merge their products into Signal, that is going to be the best out there...Hopefully they will get the uptake they deserve.
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#206So in the age of Edward Snowden this is all they say about encryption... "Are Messages And Calls Encrypted? Yes. Wire uses industry-standard encryption on all of your Wire messages and calls." "WHAT SECURITY MEASURES DO WE TAKE TO SAFEGUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION? We are concerned about safeguarding the confidentiality of your information. We provide physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect infor…
Also, their main site doesn't work without JavaScript. Come on ... having to execute custom code in the browser just to display a "Download" button? I hope they applied more (security-related) common sense in their apps than in their website.
Processing foreign data is just as dangerous as processing foreign code. Don't lull yourself into complacency just because you have NoScript when your JPEG library is probably less sandboxed and audited than your JavaScript virtual machine. The whole idea of the Von Neumann architecture is that code is data and data is code. It is advantageous when you trust everyone, but now that you can trust noöne? What to do?
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should consider that most other messengers offer no such promises, even vague ones.
Telegram seems to put their money where their mouth is.
There are serious concerns with Telegram encryption/privacy. See discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8686868 for example
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not in my experience - I've been to several companies using Skype as the primary in-office communication tool and I find it really annoying. Skype is resource-heavy, poor on features and keeps breaking on Linux (management uses Windows, so it doesn't care, but I'm a dev...). I personally refused to use Skype this time (after it kept repeatedly failing on my Ubuntu machine) and made everyone send an e-mail or write me…
I find it more surprising that you'll allowed to use FB for work.
I came to say the same thing. With a twist.
Using FB at work is one thing, using FB to communicate with your coworkers another. FB is 'private' for me (as funny as that sounds - there's nothing really private on FB of course, but it's the social life outside of work that I refer to here). Not corporate.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Right now, I have installed on my phone: * Standard text messaging app, for almost everyone. * Google Hangouts, which is a pain to remove and always logs in behind my back. I don't want to chat on my phone, it's just a nuisance. (I wish people would stop talking to me through Hangouts, honestly) * Viber, with a single contact. * LINE, with a single contact. I don't have WhatsApp or Snapchat or whatever, but…
I know this will probably cause dissent, but I think the time of Google (now Apache) Wave may have arrived :-) XMPP based (but hideously complicated) and can still do more than any other "chat" system out there that I've seen. http://incubator.apache.org/wave/ https://github.com/apache/incubator-wave
I immediately thought "oh, this looks like wave". The problem is that still don't think that this (or Apache Wave) is a whole quanta better than the good enough solutions that are out there.
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#210Am I such an outlier if I use Skype for business, not for leisure? I have clients on three continents and every single one used Skype to communicate about the project. Skype was generally running on every machine as a "watercooler chat"/IRC replacement. Just open groups, give them names and pin them to the sidebar. Done. So I really expected this to be more secure, more portable and LESS designer-driven. Who is even…
Not in my experience - I've been to several companies using Skype as the primary in-office communication tool and I find it really annoying. Skype is resource-heavy, poor on features and keeps breaking on Linux (management uses Windows, so it doesn't care, but I'm a dev...). I personally refused to use Skype this time (after it kept repeatedly failing on my Ubuntu machine) and made everyone send an e-mail or write me…
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