From my initial investigation they have some code behind, race conditions and I think I found a place where it's leaking the IP of the guy you're calling. I'll post my findings later. Messages are sent over SSL but not encrypted in any other way, so they can read them :)
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#193Am I such an outlier if I use Skype for business, not for leisure? I have clients on three continents and every single one used Skype to communicate about the project. Skype was generally running on every machine as a "watercooler chat"/IRC replacement. Just open groups, give them names and pin them to the sidebar. Done. So I really expected this to be more secure, more portable and LESS designer-driven. Who is even…
Not in my experience - I've been to several companies using Skype as the primary in-office communication tool and I find it really annoying. Skype is resource-heavy, poor on features and keeps breaking on Linux (management uses Windows, so it doesn't care, but I'm a dev...). I personally refused to use Skype this time (after it kept repeatedly failing on my Ubuntu machine) and made everyone send an e-mail or write me…
I find it more surprising that you'll allowed to use FB for work.
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#194> Wire interactions are secure and we comply with European privacy laws and regulations. Which basically means as soon as a warrant is sent from pretty much any European government they'll hand over all your conversations. The support article doesn't give any detail whatsoever on how they encrypt your conversations: https://support.wire.com/hc/en-us/articles/203122500-Are-mes... It's a shame companies can't be held a…
Huh? Which company will not give records if subpoenaed? PS: Of course companies can be held accountable for false advertising. You can take them to court yourself.
The company that does not have records to begin with, when the encryption is truly end-to-end.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is really all I want as well. There's tons of pretty messaging apps. Style isn't enough to sway me anymore - I want privacy. How hard is it to make a messaging app that makes encryption its #1 priority?
Pretty hard, but it's coming. See http://labs.bittorrent.com/bleep
It's closed source.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Right now, I have installed on my phone: * Standard text messaging app, for almost everyone. * Google Hangouts, which is a pain to remove and always logs in behind my back. I don't want to chat on my phone, it's just a nuisance. (I wish people would stop talking to me through Hangouts, honestly) * Viber, with a single contact. * LINE, with a single contact. I don't have WhatsApp or Snapchat or whatever, but…
It's a shame that XMPP didn't save us from this situation. My hunch is that the baseline featureset over federation was too low: no federated medsage history; MUCs are single point of failures. We're trying to fix this with Matrix.org - folks frustrated with yet another communication silo might want to check it out and help us tear down the walls between these gardens. (obvious disclaimer: i help run matrix.org)
I was going to snarkily post the "Standards" xkcd - http://xkcd.com/927/ - but then I noticed that the sample chat on your homepage already has it.
Nicely played.
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#197Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network
#198Am I such an outlier if I use Skype for business, not for leisure? I have clients on three continents and every single one used Skype to communicate about the project. Skype was generally running on every machine as a "watercooler chat"/IRC replacement. Just open groups, give them names and pin them to the sidebar. Done. So I really expected this to be more secure, more portable and LESS designer-driven. Who is even…
i like to joke there are two types of tech companies, mutually exclusive. - profit driven - investor money driven skype is a profit company. wire is clearly investor money driven. So while your example is valid, i don't think they want to displace the corporate consumer that creates the bulky of skype profit. It probably wants to go after the users that uses snapchat/wasup/etc for free, with little revenue besides wh…
Sadly, we mostly hear about those investor money driven companies.
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#199To contact everyone I know I need: * Skype * XMPP * Hangouts * AIM * YIM * SMS * Facebook * IRC * Viber (which I don't use, because yet another client was too much when all these people had other clients anyway). Another client is just a no go at this stage. I'm still annoyed at Skype blocking both multiple network IM clients I used (imo first, then when they dropped the whole "multiple network" part, IM+).
No WhatsApp? :)
Not big in my country, actually. (That said, neither is AIM, but generally people I know abroad don't ask about Whatsapp. Yet anyway.)