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Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by drdaeman »

Sincerely hope GitHub won't give up an inch to censorship and handle the situation with "your government is your problems, not ours" attitude.

With all seriousness - I think the whole situation just can't be solved otherwise. All this censorship things went generally unnoticed and went along the "oh, they're blocking evil child molesters' sites, it's alright" line of thought. To raise the awareness, some high-profile sacrifices are necessary. Hope they'd also block Wikipedia.

Disclaimer: yep, I'm Russian. Had some issues accessing GitHub. Between inconvenience and censorship I'd chose the former any day.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by guard-of-terra »

stfnppv wrote: post #73
reirob wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for posting this insight! I am in Europe and I am really scared about that the situation between Western World and Russia could escalate even more. Second Cold War is not far away now. I deeply hope that both opponents US/Europe/Ukraine and Russia will find a diplomatic way out of this situation that will allow to carry on. The world has so many other problems - ecological, economical, viral, terrorists - to c…

The cold war never ended, buddy. It's just that Putin feels comfortable enough now to show his teeth.

Actually it did end with Russia losing not just overseas allies, not just Eastern Block, but even Ukraine and Belarus.

Thus casting Russia back into XVI century.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by mahouse »

hal9000xp wrote: post #20

I live in Russia (Moscow) and I'm working for leading russian internet company. I'm very annoyed by current political and economical situation. I was so upset by events happening last months that I simply stopped reading russian news at all. And I spent all the time in places like GitHub, Topcoder, English Wikipedia, Hacker News etc. Yesterday, I've tried to make yet another commit to my private repository and sudden…

> May be for western people it's hard to believe how can it be possible to support this crazy regime.

For me, it is not. As an example, for me the US is completely nuts, but you know, they like what they like. You can think some things are normal just because you're used to them, but that means nothing.

> This is why Russia has no future as a liberal market-driven country.

And what if they don't want to play that game?

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by Tisoga »

I live in China and many websites has already been blocked here such as Google, Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc.

How could you imagine that one person in this planet do not know Google? And this will be happen in China.

Here, some freedom has already been lost.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

#85

Post by xor-ed-wolf »

acqq wrote: post #44
znowi wrote: post #32

What a nice attack vector. Deliver a "suicidal" payload to a website, report to Russian authorities and watch it go offline in Russia. It might as well be SO or any other site with user content.

Maybe we should follow the money? Who profits from it? Those selling VPN access. But maybe the full VPN is not needed at all. See my other messages here.

It can possible be orchestrated by some corporate interests but I don't believe they are powerful enough to overrule entire IT sector interests. It really seems more like a blunder of inadequate policy implementation like it was done a few times before.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by vetler »

hal9000xp wrote: post #20

I live in Russia (Moscow) and I'm working for leading russian internet company. I'm very annoyed by current political and economical situation. I was so upset by events happening last months that I simply stopped reading russian news at all. And I spent all the time in places like GitHub, Topcoder, English Wikipedia, Hacker News etc. Yesterday, I've tried to make yet another commit to my private repository and sudden…

Wow, I had no idea it was that bad. Good luck in finding a job abroad! If you don't want to move that far, and live in one of the safest countries in the world, I can highly recommend Norway.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by gear54rus »

sergiosgc wrote: post #37
gear54rus wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These two can't be compared. I wouldn't mind much them blocking wordpress.org (I rarely visit it and when I do, I can circumvent). GitHub, or, for the matter SO, will be a big hit.

Note the domain. Wordpress.org, not wordpress.com.

I understand perfectly, I'm just saying not as many people depend on Wordpress as on GH or SO.

Personally, I don't recall last time I had to deal with it.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by drdaeman »

acqq wrote: post #15
codeshaman wrote: post #13

Official reason for blocking: the site hosts texts describing methods of suicide. Because Github uses HTTPS only, it's impossible to block only the offending pages, so the whole IP range is blocked. Github ignored their requests to remove the offending content, so the site remains blocked. I hope Russian citizens get a big fat boost of morality from blocking Github. Really, it's not the alcoholism, injustice, corrupt…

Don't worry, practically every European country censors something on the internet (example: (1)) Some level of absurdity is always present as there are almost always some methods to get to the data when the person is determined enough. 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_Unit... I'm writing from one another West European country. Here even teens share the IP numbers of the video sites banned on…

Well, at least you have court orders (at least those are directed) and it seems that providers don't even bother to mess with IP payload, just make their DNS server spoof the zone (hope I'm not wrong they don't redirect all udp port 53 traffic to their servers).

Not like it helps, but it's much better. The whole current situation in Russia is a bit different - there are no court orders at all (that is, the whole censorship is completely unaccountable), and every ISP has to blindly comply or risk getting their license to operate revoked (or at least not prolonged).

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by dimitar »

hal9000xp wrote: post #20

I live in Russia (Moscow) and I'm working for leading russian internet company. I'm very annoyed by current political and economical situation. I was so upset by events happening last months that I simply stopped reading russian news at all. And I spent all the time in places like GitHub, Topcoder, English Wikipedia, Hacker News etc. Yesterday, I've tried to make yet another commit to my private repository and sudden…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3064ALCEAEnJWT.png:large - according to this chart, you are not alone in considering emigration.

Re: GitHub blocked in Russia

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Post by guard-of-terra »

maga wrote: post #79
guard-of-terra wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours too. We no longer has any multi-polar oligarchic groups. It seems that all power is one set of hands now. Even then, Putin got just 52% on elections in my town and the neighboring towns of Moscow area. I guess even Obama had it more secure.

Speaking about the elections, do you guys honestly believe that he has got 99,759%(!) vote with turnout of 99,61% (!!) in the region where he caused a death or two in practically every family?

No, I don't. Sociological reports show that only around 40% of people in those regions you mention admit of ever going to the voting booths.

However if they do, they're likely vote for Putin because other candidates would have even less appeal to them, even if they've heard of them.

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