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#41
I recently discovered SIP-based softphone software (ex. Ekiga). I works great, is easy to use and completely free of charge and registration is minimal (you just need a SIP account).

I really don't get why people would pay for Skype when there are better alternatives around.

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#42

Privacy agreements just a word without cryptographic technology background as supporter. Also "everwhere" not means "ios, osx, android". where is windows and linux desktop clients, even skype supports linux desktops today.

And it's only iOS8. That also leaves out iPhone 4 and iPad 2. Skype works on both.

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post #33

"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.

We didn't need yet another IRC clone, and yet Slack seems to be cleaning up. The core value prop of the internet is easy communication. Don't be surprised when people continue to iterate on it.

To be fair, Slack is much more than simply an IRC clone

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

What about Threema? ( https://threema.ch/en )

It's not cross-platform unfortunately, it's only on mobile devices.

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post #33

"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.

We didn't need yet another IRC clone, and yet Slack seems to be cleaning up. The core value prop of the internet is easy communication. Don't be surprised when people continue to iterate on it.

Slack was doing it for me until recently. I could paste code and it would format it correctly. It looked great although a bit sluggish at times.

Then I tried to share a Pages document...

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post #9

Hmm, no Linux client ... and you 'have' to set a picture when you register? Really? I'm out.

No OSX Lion compatibility too. And they've put it on App Store as if it's the only way to distribute it. Looks like a BS.

>> Not many people seem to use Lion these days though. An app that I work on has less than 6% (of the 13,000 users who have opted in to providing system stats) on Lion.

Locking an app to a version of OS is still a bad practice, particularly for an app aiming to network effect. I have Viber and it works on my Lion! Btw, I think that Viber blows away the competition by having everything: VoIP, Pic,Video, Message all for free!

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post #8

"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.

Everyone thinks we don't need another one until they see one that does something they like but hadn't realised would be useful. WhatsApp with its free messages, Twitter with its enforced terseness, Snapchat with its take on ephemerality - they were all adopted by millions of users who, before seeing the app, would probably have declared they didn't need a new messaging app. Yet they installed it, tried it, and contin…

I agree. But what's the feature here? I lament the audio quality of cell phone calls, but audio quality depends on bandwidth, and this requires an internet connection, which is going to be spotty depending on location and when transitioning from data to wifi. Every feature here seems a marginal improvement on what already exists (audio quality, UI, sync, security, battery use). No new concepts. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to use it, but I don't see an impetus for mass adoption.

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"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.

I disagree. The current situation with voice and text is insane; telephone companies still try to own that space and charge for things like SMS/receiving calls, even though it's becoming increasingly obvious that it makes far more sense to send messaging over the internet rather than via custom infrastructure. No-one wants cell phone/telephone operators to be anything more than a dumb pipe apart from them.

Apps like this are the future, but nobody has quite hit the perfect spot yet in terms of features and adoption (adoption probably being most important, or some method of piggy-backing on existing services like email/SMS/mobile nos). I had a look at this and it looks pretty good but the first-run experience just isn't there yet. I don't trust some random company with my address book, certainly not on first-run, so I'm not in an empty app wondering what to do. That's far from ideal and will probably be their biggest problem.

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