Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
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Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#2Life is too short to be a revolutionary hero. Be a law abiding citizen and do what Zuckenberg,Page and other American CEOs did, quietly give control control over our privacy to the government. Social networks are too important for mass surveillance.
Russians are too optimistic because only 20 years ago they had an attempt of a complete governance system change.
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#3 > 67 years ago Stalin defended from Hitler his right to suppress Soviet people
Great quote.
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#4Life is too short to be a revolutionary hero. Be a law abiding citizen and do what Zuckenberg,Page and other American CEOs did, quietly give control control over our privacy to the government. Social networks are too important for mass surveillance. Russians are too optimistic because only 20 years ago they had an attempt of a complete governance system change.
False dichotomy. You can permit law enforcement to make warranted requests against specific users or groups while still not allowing them access to all the data. You don't have to choose between "revolutionary hero" and "let the government do whatever they want with your company and your users", at least not in North America. In a country like Russia it may be different.
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#5A few weeks later, he and other VKontakte executives folded 5000-ruble notes — worth about $155 at the time — into paper airplanes and threw them out an office window, sparking a fight in the street below.
I'm wondering if that can be qualified as "mean". Doesn't look like a nice thing to do. I also can't see what was the motivation other than "Look, I'm rich".
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#6Pavel seems to be a great person, building a gift to society & mankind. He puts the users/people before himself, stands behind their rights and believes in strong ideals such as freedom of speech and privacy. I don't think you can say the same about many other internet companies/services.
If you look at his previous company VK. It is by far a superior experience to Facebook, given how intuitive, fast and sleek it is. Images load 3 times as fast and has many features which FB does not have. I use daily to keep in touch with my friends in Belarus, Ukraine and Russian. I only wish more of my friends used it. He has an incredible eye for design and product.
When people refer to VK being a clone of Facebook. This is innovation. Did Facebook invent the idea of Social Networking? It must be extremely annoying to be constantly referred to as "Russia’s Mark Zuckerberg" and having VK being constantly compared to FB.
Here he has had a brilliant opportunity for a fresh start, freedom to create something better than before and I'm sure he will take advantage of it.
As Steve Jobs put it. "Getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life." Steve Jobs, 2005"
Everyone should look forward for what is to come with Telegram. There is some really great technological innovations going on. They've invented a new protocol(https://core.telegram.org/techfaq) and have a great API to utilise this technology(https://core.telegram.org/).
I'm sure you'll like it. Check it out: http://www.telegram.org
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#7Pavel seems to be a great person, building a gift to society & mankind. He puts the users/people before himself, stands behind their rights and believes in strong ideals such as freedom of speech and privacy. I don't think you can say the same about many other internet companies/services. If you look at his previous company VK. It is by far a superior experience to Facebook, given how intuitive, fast and sleek it is.…
> It is by far a superior experience to Facebook, given how intuitive, fast and sleek it is.
It's riddled with childporn and sick/illegal stuff like that.
Is that's your definition of "superior experience"?
It's a crappy Facebook clone,always has been and always will.
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#8Pavel seems to be a great person, building a gift to society & mankind. He puts the users/people before himself, stands behind their rights and believes in strong ideals such as freedom of speech and privacy. I don't think you can say the same about many other internet companies/services. If you look at his previous company VK. It is by far a superior experience to Facebook, given how intuitive, fast and sleek it is.…
Pavel is widely seen by the Russian developer community as a sort of a douchebag who flaunts his wealth in ways that would seem crass to someone from Silicon Valley. Just look at the guy throwing paper planes made from money at a crowd of onlookers: http://youtu.be/2pxTpFqX6rI?t=25s
Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#9Life is too short to be a revolutionary hero. Be a law abiding citizen and do what Zuckenberg,Page and other American CEOs did, quietly give control control over our privacy to the government. Social networks are too important for mass surveillance. Russians are too optimistic because only 20 years ago they had an attempt of a complete governance system change.
False dichotomy. You can permit law enforcement to make warranted requests against specific users or groups while still not allowing them access to all the data. You don't have to choose between "revolutionary hero" and "let the government do whatever they want with your company and your users", at least not in North America. In a country like Russia it may be different.
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Re: Once Celebrated in Russia, Programmer Pavel Durov Chooses Exile
#10A few weeks later, he and other VKontakte executives folded 5000-ruble notes — worth about $155 at the time — into paper airplanes and threw them out an office window, sparking a fight in the street below. I'm wondering if that can be qualified as "mean". Doesn't look like a nice thing to do. I also can't see what was the motivation other than "Look, I'm rich".
Both Zuck and Durov were approached by secret services by their respective countries. Zuck caved in and gave up Facebook information to NSA. Durov decided to fight and ended up exiled.