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Hawking: AI could end human race

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Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

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It's interesting how people so smart in one field can be so ignorant in others, to the point of not being aware of their own ignorance. While science fiction and hollywood really love the idea of this magical moment where AI is created and becomes self aware and destroys us all, real AI is so far away that these concerns are laughable. It's just like all those dummies worrying the LHC would destroy the earth. It's fe…

Elon Musk is not from a different field. I wouldn't call him ignorant.

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

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How exactly does it end the human race? It takes over our cars and drives us all off a cliff? It infects all computers and overheats the batteries? This planet is well suited to biological life, it'd be pretty hard to kill all of us.

Hopefully instead of random annihilation "it" calculates the optimum number of humans for the size and resource limit of the planet and assists us in lowering our numbers.

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

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To all those saying it is impossible: The point you are making about it being impossible is as moot as the one those that fear AI are making. From logical point of view, singularity (a moment when AI has modified itself to the point beyond our capacity of control or even understanding) seems possible. I don't see a way for us to tell what will happen when it hits. One needs to remember that AI itself may not be evil,…

The message should be: We need more funding and promotion of AI safety research.

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#55

I'm tired of this fear mongering. There are hundreds of viruses that could end the human race. There are millions of rocks in space that could end the human race. There are people that could end the human race with push of a button. Human race could be history by the time I stop writing this rant. AI has a great potential and could help us prevent most of our existential threats. AI is not a god. It will not suddenly…

This isn't fear mongering, it's simply a question of due diligence. AI is a big unknown (unlike viruses, comets, nuclear weapons, incidentally, all of which we have at least some grasp of -- ever seen an AI?)

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

#56
post #28

While I agree with prof. Hawking in principle, my opinion is that sentient AI is a very hard problem, and we are centuries away from creating one. This is like medieval alchemists worrying about nuclear war. Let the future generations start worrying, when the threat starts to become more relevant.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had identified global warming earlier and started acting on it before industries that pollute became a vital part of our society, and hence became much harder to change?

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

#57
post #43
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know it's far away? If I have to side with you or Musk (extremely intelligent engineer with insider knowledge of advancements), I'm siding with Musk.

I know it's far away because I develop software for a living. In software development, you have to understand the problem space in order to create something that works (duh). Relatively speaking, we know absolutely nothing about how human intelligence works from an algorithmic point of view, therefore we can't model it in software. Sure, we can develop "AI" that is good at a very narrow range of tasks (e.g., playing…

You could be right, you could be wrong. Do you work in AI? I suppose it's hard to tell how far the industry actually is, towards emulating portions of brain functionality.

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

#58
post #13

I'm tired of this fear mongering. There are hundreds of viruses that could end the human race. There are millions of rocks in space that could end the human race. There are people that could end the human race with push of a button. Human race could be history by the time I stop writing this rant. AI has a great potential and could help us prevent most of our existential threats. AI is not a god. It will not suddenly…

What's really irritating is that supposedly smart folks (Hawking, Musk) are really vocal about this doomsday crap and their fear CLEARLY comes from a place of ignorance as opposed to insight.

It can't be that clear because I don't see how their views are ignorant. Care to enlighten us?

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

#59

How exactly does it end the human race? It takes over our cars and drives us all off a cliff? It infects all computers and overheats the batteries? This planet is well suited to biological life, it'd be pretty hard to kill all of us. Hopefully instead of random annihilation "it" calculates the optimum number of humans for the size and resource limit of the planet and assists us in lowering our numbers.

pretty much all machines are already capable of killing us. they're just not smart enough to be able to want to yet. :)

Re: Hawking: AI could end human race

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To all those saying it is impossible: The point you are making about it being impossible is as moot as the one those that fear AI are making. From logical point of view, singularity (a moment when AI has modified itself to the point beyond our capacity of control or even understanding) seems possible. I don't see a way for us to tell what will happen when it hits. One needs to remember that AI itself may not be evil,…

The worst case scenario is that AI is an all powerful psychopath - like the way extremist liberals ala 'the corporation' evaluate big business. We run our lives under the assumption that the rules and organizations we structure our societies around are something fundamental about humans that is 'good' or at least 'neutral'. If AI starts creating techniques of which to modify structures I already find incomprehensible, then it becomes a tool of which to analyze those structures as well. We know the present to be distinguishable from our history through differentiation. I agree it's moot. We can't know for better, or worse.
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