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Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by toomuchtodo »

paulrosenzweig wrote: post #3
yupthatsit wrote: post #2

I paid for the research with my tax payer money. Give me full access to the articles. Anything less is unacceptable (unless Nature wants to pay me back the taxes they owe me).

There might be details I'm missing, but I think all NIH funded, peer-reviewed research needs to be publicly accessible within 12 months of publication. http://publicaccess.nih.gov/policy.htm

Any Gates Foundation research is now required to be immediately available at publication as well:

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/how-we-work/general-informati...

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by refurb »

jaskerr wrote: post #20
timtadh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all research is funded by tax payers.

Be prepared to name research projects that do not receive government funding in the first or second degree. (That is: receive funding directly, or from grant-making organizations that themselves receive substantial government funding.)

Any research funded by non-governmental organizations like the Howard Hughes Foundation, Michael J Fox foundation, etc, etc.

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by sjf »

jaskerr wrote: post #20
timtadh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all research is funded by tax payers.

Be prepared to name research projects that do not receive government funding in the first or second degree. (That is: receive funding directly, or from grant-making organizations that themselves receive substantial government funding.)

Your taxes are not funding international research.

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by stephentmcm »

morninj wrote: post #19

Their definition of "free" is interesting. Only paid subscribers can search for articles, and apparently others can view articles only if subscribers share links with them. For many purposes, articles might be "free" but still hidden from the public.

So how long until someone writes a web crawler that dumps all the links into a searchable public db?

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by mkonecny »

Nicholas_C wrote: post #9

Off topic: Why is this article dated December 2nd? It is still December 1st everywhere in the United States. Perhaps it was published after normal business hours on the 1st, thus defaulting to the 2nd as the official date? Just curious.

The internet doesn't exist solely in the US. It spans GMT -5 through GMT -8. There are countries that are up to 16 hours ahead in time..

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by qq66 »

stephentmcm wrote: post #26
morninj wrote: post #19

Their definition of "free" is interesting. Only paid subscribers can search for articles, and apparently others can view articles only if subscribers share links with them. For many purposes, articles might be "free" but still hidden from the public.

So how long until someone writes a web crawler that dumps all the links into a searchable public db?

The public link is probably coded to each subscriber, so they would be able to identify the culprit and disable all the links from that subscriber.

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by selmnoo »

qq66 wrote: post #28
stephentmcm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how long until someone writes a web crawler that dumps all the links into a searchable public db?

The public link is probably coded to each subscriber, so they would be able to identify the culprit and disable all the links from that subscriber.

Hah, come on. :) That's not a very high barrier. A 'pirate' simply has to get a throwaway account (or steal one, if he's truly bad) and he doesn't even have to worry about that.

I expect all Nature articles made "free" today to be available on TPB in one month. I'll put .1 BTC on it. :)

Re: Nature makes all articles free to view

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Post by morninj »

qq66 wrote: post #28
stephentmcm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how long until someone writes a web crawler that dumps all the links into a searchable public db?

The public link is probably coded to each subscriber, so they would be able to identify the culprit and disable all the links from that subscriber.

As soon as a link is shared, each person who learns the URL is potentially a "culprit."
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