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Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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post #63

Todo list: 1- Invent powerful machines for simulations and calculations(ok) 2- Stop with childish religious beliefs altogether (in progress - 5ys) 3- Review completely the social contract (in progress - 50ys) 4- Fix mortality (urgent - 100ys) 5- Explore the universe (2114)

5 years? How do you figure that?

I think that we already have all the elements to make this leap. I am not being naive, only optimistic.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

#82

Don't forget that you can download the video using youtube-dl (if you like me, get annoyed that Vimeo doesn't continue buffering when you pause it, and deletes the current buffer if you rewind) http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

Or VLC or XBMC which do a vastly better job of buffering than online players.

Youtube-dl is my first choice though (and is how I viewed this video).

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

#83
post #63

Todo list: 1- Invent powerful machines for simulations and calculations(ok) 2- Stop with childish religious beliefs altogether (in progress - 5ys) 3- Review completely the social contract (in progress - 50ys) 4- Fix mortality (urgent - 100ys) 5- Explore the universe (2114)

too bad we are not going to be around when mortality will be fixed. out of luck, i guess.

Actually, for Aubrey de Grey, that will be 50 years[1], but I think this is only to get more funds.

[1] http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_ag...

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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post #78

Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy is apparently being made into a TV series now. This guy must work on the visuals for that. He gets it; he really, really gets it.

When I saw the movie I immediately thought of Kim Stanley Robinson's work. I think this short may be heavily inspired by that.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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post #76
post #63

Todo list: 1- Invent powerful machines for simulations and calculations(ok) 2- Stop with childish religious beliefs altogether (in progress - 5ys) 3- Review completely the social contract (in progress - 50ys) 4- Fix mortality (urgent - 100ys) 5- Explore the universe (2114)

There is no single social contract, but if there is, it very well has to be reviewed before we "fix" mortality. And who says that the further exploration of the universe (which is happening since a few thousand years anyway) is tempting to a critical mass with an unlimited lifespan where distractions are manifold and any simulation more convenient and less dangerous than the exploration of the universe in person.

> There is no single social contract, but if there is, it very well has to be reviewed before we "fix" mortality.

Just like I said.

>any simulation more convenient and less dangerous than the exploration of the universe in person

We have been risking our lifes to explorer our world for millenniums. Why would it be different for space?

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be even better if we could spend this amount of money to fix the problems we already have on this planet, like global warming, pollution and hunger and stuff.

You seem to not realize those are problems for us, human virus, and not the planet problems. Those so called problems are natures way of trying to balance things. If you cut hunger and make a breakthrough in healthcare you will immediately accelerate population growth, and in effect accelerate pollution and energy use. Earth is unsustainable in the long run. No one is willing to accept euthanasia, birth limits, basic…

I would not say that no one is willing to do something.

I think that the preaching of sustainability does focus on the wrong problem, at least on the long run.

Seams that not many people want to spell out where on Earth lies its most imminent problem.

http://www.wrsc.org/sites/default/files/images/2011/populati...

http://prorev.com/808POPGROWTH.JPG

Luckily some projections show that the growth in those problematic areas my stabilize http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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What a fantastic video. My favourite part: BASE jumping from Verona Rupes - the tallest known cliff in the Solar System - somewhere from 5km to 20km vertical: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110404.html By comparison the tallest vertical drop on Earth is on the surreal Mount Thor at 1250m: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/03/mount-thor-greatest-ver... [Some great details - like the Earth coastlines used in the asteroid…

These activities displayed in the video do raise the question - who are these people? As it raises many ethics questions.

Who are these people who can afford this kind of luxurious off planet lifestyle, a cosmic tourism. As this does not seam to be a scientific mission.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be even better if we could spend this amount of money to fix the problems we already have on this planet, like global warming, pollution and hunger and stuff.

This is fundamentally a question of the balance between our efforts focused on the long-term vs those focused on the short-term. Space exploration offers significant benefits long-term but generally provides no immediate pay-off next quarter. I'm personally baffled by the desire to focus all our resources on the short-term. The questions of the long-term future of humankind and our place in the universe, make the imm…

> Another important point is that a lot of our problems here on Earth are entirely self-inflicted (e.g. inequality, pollution, global warming) and so they can't simply be fixed by throwing money at them: they need political transformation.

Yes, but so long as global warming is a threat then the notion of humanity expanding to the stars is a pipe-dream. If the planet becomes incapable of supporting advanced social structures -- or, worse, complex lifeforms whatsoever -- then no one is going to be going anywhere: there will be no one left to travel.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

#89
Would be more impressive to show the Earth inhabited by humans who finally figured out how not to destroy it. THAT is a real sci-fi, hardcore level. I guess no one is bold enough to tackle this type of visuals and narrative.

What does this video show? Dead worlds, dead rocks with adrenaline, pleasure seeking junkies. Why everyone is so excited about it? Is this a type of nihilistic, pointless existence amidst dead landscape hostile to life itself that excites you?

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