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Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Post by graycat »

hereonbusiness wrote: post #20
graycat wrote: post #5

Wander? From earth into the rest of the solar system? If we'd grown up anywhere else in this solar system, then the place, the dream destination, in this solar system would be earth. Since I'm already here, no way do I want to leave! Send some machines to gather some data and transmit it back to us here on earth? Fine. Maybe terrific. Go there, in person? For me, no way!

If someone offered me the chance to travel the solar system, watch the sun rise on mars, jump off vertical cliffs on a moon, see jupiter and saturn up close, ... I would do it in a heartbeat Do I think human space travel is feasible or even necessary at least at this point in time? No, not by a long shot. Machines can do a better job and will probably always be able to do it better if technology keeps advancing. Mach…

Other than earth? I might like to visit there, but I don't want to live there!

But with the realities, as you outlined, of visiting, really I wouldn't want to do that, either.

Mars? Okay, send a lot of robots. Let the robots get a good base going. Let the robots mine Mars to get fuel for return trips. Let the robots come and go until it all seems highly reliable. Go to the trouble to get enough mass for cosmic ray protection. Let some high risk takers go and return. Then, maybe, maybe, maybe I'd consider a visit! But that whole scenario is not nearly realistic at all soon.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Post by Kronopath »

I love the details in this film. Things like the winged people flying on Titan, possible due to its dense atmosphere. There are things on these other worlds that we could never experience here.

Even the title has multiple meanings to it:

In ancient times, astronomers noted how certain lights moved across the sky in relation to the other stars. Ancient Greeks called these lights πλάνητες ἀστέρες (planetes asteres, "wandering stars") or simply πλανῆται (planētai, "wanderers"), from which today's word "planet" was derived.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Post by prbuckley »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #4

Wow; that was incredible. I wish it were three hours long. That dude floating in that debris belt (ring of Saturn?) -- that looked a bit dangerous. Hopefully he had a force field around him. There's so much out there, just waiting for us to get off our duffs and explore. We have much of the technology; if we could just stop spending trillions on machines of war and instead spend it on machines of exploration....

You should really go see interstellar, I saw it last night and it is probably the closest thing to a 3hr version of that short video that exists. They are both really fantastic films. I would also add that interstellar is worth seeing in IMAX if you can.

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Post by prawn »

a3n wrote: post #22
blisterpeanuts wrote: post #4

Wow; that was incredible. I wish it were three hours long. That dude floating in that debris belt (ring of Saturn?) -- that looked a bit dangerous. Hopefully he had a force field around him. There's so much out there, just waiting for us to get off our duffs and explore. We have much of the technology; if we could just stop spending trillions on machines of war and instead spend it on machines of exploration....

> There's so much out there, just waiting for us to get off our duffs and explore. We have much of the technology; if we could just stop spending trillions on machines of war and instead spend it on machines of exploration.... I agree with this 100%. But while we're moving outward, however slowly, don't forget Sagan's Caveat: "Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all…

My reaction to Wanderers was also to consider our own planet. For all the curiosities out there yet to be discovered, Earth is flat-out stunning. I was watching segments from David Attenborough's Africa earlier and thinking that what we have already discovered is incredible, and (in general) we're already doing some excellent work in trying to wreck it.

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Post by prawn »

dmix wrote: post #10
ogig wrote: post #7

All these visuals made by just one guy? I'm impressed. It has higher quality than many hollywood fx products.

> It has higher quality than many hollywood fx products. Seriously. How are Hollywood CGI films so poorly made when this is possible?

Because they're trying to do a lot more.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Post by hysan »

frinxor wrote: post #26

Check out Reid Gower's videos as well, the Sagan Series, a collection of videos he did that also used Carl Sagan's voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY59wZdCDo0&index=1&list=PLF... And of course, Cosmos, which is where all the audio is from in all these videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dADUBcoEEHw&index=1&list=PLB...

Episode 2 of the Cosmos series playlist gives me this:

> This video contains content from eOne, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Post by el_zorro »

agrona wrote: post #24
yogrish wrote: post #14

Awesome creation. Image Gallery and Explanation: http://imgur.com/a/Ur5dP

Art and source photos aside, this link is sort of disappointing. For example, >As Mars' diameter is about half of the Earths, the elevator cable wouldn't have to be as long to reach geostationary orbit and due to the lighter gravitational pull it wouldn't suffer as much stress from its weight. Mars' diameter has nothing to do with the distance to stationary orbit, which is a result of gravity (and thus its mass).

The diameter actually does have an effect on where geostationary orbit is: it changes how fast the surface is spinning, and hence the orbital speed needed for a stationary orbit.

Mars spins once every 24 hours 37 minutes. If the diameter was twice as large, it would have to be moving twice as fast to maintain that length of day.

Interestingly, since you orbit faster the closer you are to the surface, a decreased diameter actually pushes geosynchronous out away from the planet. This effect is, of course, very much negated by the absence of mass. Still, two equally massive planets with the same rotational period but NOT the same diameter will have different geostationary altitudes.

Re: Wanderers: a short film of humanity's expansion into the Solar System [video]

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Post by kylegordon »

graycat wrote: post #5

Wander? From earth into the rest of the solar system? If we'd grown up anywhere else in this solar system, then the place, the dream destination, in this solar system would be earth. Since I'm already here, no way do I want to leave! Send some machines to gather some data and transmit it back to us here on earth? Fine. Maybe terrific. Go there, in person? For me, no way!

If you'd grown up or evolved elsewhere in the solar system, there's a high chance Earth would be inhospitable to you, just like Mars is to us. Your dream home would be Saturn, or Venus, etc.

The universe has a history of destroying the majority of life on Earth. It would be naive to think that statistics don't apply to the human race.

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