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Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

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Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

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post #3

"reflect modern web user experience by emphasizing interaction and personalization" Am I the only one who used to be but is no longer the target audience of the web? I've been posting on forums and so on for years and years. Is that not interaction? You need a proper browser to use forums and browse the web properly. Removing or semi-hiding everything doesn't do that. How does hiding a URL make more "interaction and…

If you haven't seen the current customization options in Firefox I advise you to check there, you can move all buttons and bars, add new buttons and tailor your UI to your taste.

I took a shot while writing this post showing the customization screen:

http://andregarzia.com/shots/Customize_Firefox_Developer_Edi...

Firefox still the most customizable browser out there.

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#22
Do you know that it steals all of your credentials and session cookies from other browsers?

I did an install, realized that I already logged in facebook, gmail and some other websites. How come this is done so easily? So I immediately removed it from my pc.

I don't suggest anyone to install it. I learnt from the hard way.

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#23
post #22

Do you know that it steals all of your credentials and session cookies from other browsers? I did an install, realized that I already logged in facebook, gmail and some other websites. How come this is done so easily? So I immediately removed it from my pc. I don't suggest anyone to install it. I learnt from the hard way.

It would be a nice feature, if done with permission. (Which I wouldn't give it in a million years, but that's me.)

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#24
post #22

Do you know that it steals all of your credentials and session cookies from other browsers? I did an install, realized that I already logged in facebook, gmail and some other websites. How come this is done so easily? So I immediately removed it from my pc. I don't suggest anyone to install it. I learnt from the hard way.

Other browsers do this by asking. But it's pointless anyway because most people will not know what a cookie is and they leave that check box checked.

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#25
post #22

Do you know that it steals all of your credentials and session cookies from other browsers? I did an install, realized that I already logged in facebook, gmail and some other websites. How come this is done so easily? So I immediately removed it from my pc. I don't suggest anyone to install it. I learnt from the hard way.

If you install native software and it is malicious, you are already owned. This is uncorrelated to the visible use of other apps' data locally. This is your data and it is still on your PC, why bother?

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#26
post #22

Do you know that it steals all of your credentials and session cookies from other browsers? I did an install, realized that I already logged in facebook, gmail and some other websites. How come this is done so easily? So I immediately removed it from my pc. I don't suggest anyone to install it. I learnt from the hard way.

Other browsers do this by asking. But it's pointless anyway because most people will not know what a cookie is and they leave that check box checked.

Are you sure that? Other browsers import bookmarks, history etc but not cookies, especially session cookies.

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#27
We Want Chromeless: https://vimeo.com/95800398 Get Involved: http://code.higg.im/chromeless/

For the security pedants, I didn't overlook security:

    Before Fullscreen got launched, there was a heated discussion on the possible security implications of Fullscreen. Couldn't attacker X just mimic a fake browser window, simulate a bank's login screen (address bar et al), and steal login info? Phishing does the exact same thing, but the URL is always cunningly disguised as the real URL. For example: http://bankofamerica.com.87654321.com/login.do. With an exact replica of the Operating System, as-well, as a browser mockup, it can be quite possible to mimic the real URL, so all the user sees is http://bankofamerica.com/login.do. 

    When fullscreen got launched, obviously the Mozilla team did their homework. Firstly, the user knows very well they're entering fullscreen mode (via a very well placed message). As-well as this, the user always has to "click", or otherwise activate Fullscreen through a button. Click-jacking, however is out of the question with Fullscreen. (I've tried it). You can't fire-up Fullscreen by emulating a click. So with this in mind, Chromeless Windows should adapt the same pattern.

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#28

We Want Chromeless: https://vimeo.com/95800398 Get Involved: http://code.higg.im/chromeless/ For the security pedants, I didn't overlook security: Before Fullscreen got launched, there was a heated discussion on the possible security implications of Fullscreen. Couldn't attacker X just mimic a fake browser window, simulate a bank's login screen (address bar et al), and steal login info? Phishing does the exact same t…

Also noteworthy:

Using the HTML5 Fullscreen API for Phishing Attacks http://feross.org/html5-fullscreen-api-attack/

Mozilla Full-screen API Security Review https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Reviews/Firefox10/CodeEdit...

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#29
post #21
post #3

"reflect modern web user experience by emphasizing interaction and personalization" Am I the only one who used to be but is no longer the target audience of the web? I've been posting on forums and so on for years and years. Is that not interaction? You need a proper browser to use forums and browse the web properly. Removing or semi-hiding everything doesn't do that. How does hiding a URL make more "interaction and…

If you haven't seen the current customization options in Firefox I advise you to check there, you can move all buttons and bars, add new buttons and tailor your UI to your taste. I took a shot while writing this post showing the customization screen: http://andregarzia.com/shots/Customize_Firefox_Developer_Edi... Firefox still the most customizable browser out there.

But why is the refresh button missing there?

Re: Yandex Gives Its Browser a Minimalist Makeover

#30
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web is the new app apparently. Frankly i see design wankery invading computing left and right these days. Makes me feel like that old grump yelling about lawns...

Me three, I'm taking it as a sign that I am now over the hill. Isn't there a COBOL program on a mainframe I can be coding on somewhere?

COBOL won't save you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhAz7JU0dg
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