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Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by brador »

remon wrote: post #4

What an odd trend. First Netflix moves part of their infrastructure to Node ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8631022 ) and now Yahoo is doing something similar. Node.js is great but I don't think huge enterprise systems for some of the largest brands in the world are necessarily the best fit. I wish they'd provide some insights on why they're making that particular move.

> I don't think huge enterprise systems for some of the largest brands in the world are necessarily the best fit

Why??

Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by loxs »

remon wrote: post #4

What an odd trend. First Netflix moves part of their infrastructure to Node ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8631022 ) and now Yahoo is doing something similar. Node.js is great but I don't think huge enterprise systems for some of the largest brands in the world are necessarily the best fit. I wish they'd provide some insights on why they're making that particular move.

Yep, node.js is the new PHP. Not by how it works, but by "shit everyone uses". Now, I won't try to convince anyone that it's crap (while I do believe it is), but it's the modern crap technology. Welcome to 1998, we are all "modern".

Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by bhouston »

remon wrote: post #4

What an odd trend. First Netflix moves part of their infrastructure to Node ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8631022 ) and now Yahoo is doing something similar. Node.js is great but I don't think huge enterprise systems for some of the largest brands in the world are necessarily the best fit. I wish they'd provide some insights on why they're making that particular move.

Remember that Paypal did this as well about a year ago.

(This is the best link I can find quickly: https://www.paypal-engineering.com/2013/11/22/node-js-at-pay... I am sure there are more.)

Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by __mrwhite__ »

mygreetings wrote: post #9

Little bit off topic but is there anyone like me in community having a problem with liking javascript? I have worked with javascript for years but it was always for DOM manipulation. When it comes to building an app with javascript, i feel like it is too fragile to depend on. Anyone can help me to get rid of this feeling?

Any particular reason why you feel like server-side JavaScript feels fragile? Also if by DOM manipulation you mean libraries like jQuery, have you tried more declarative approaches found in frameworks like Angular and React?

Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by debacle »

dyeje wrote: post #3

It's funny that this showed up on the front page, because yesterday I logged into an old Yahoo email account for the first time in a few years and was absolutely astounded at how awful the UI was.

You can create an awful UI with any technology.

Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by nkozyra »

remon wrote: post #4

What an odd trend. First Netflix moves part of their infrastructure to Node ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8631022 ) and now Yahoo is doing something similar. Node.js is great but I don't think huge enterprise systems for some of the largest brands in the world are necessarily the best fit. I wish they'd provide some insights on why they're making that particular move.

I'd say, more than anything, the benefit it provides is more personnel-related than anything.

While there are definitely dedicated server-side and client side JS people, speaking the "same language" helps within teams and allows for some shared responsibilities.

That's appealing to large organizations with decent turnover.

Re: Yahoo Mail moving to React

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Post by loxs »

__mrwhite__ wrote: post #14
mygreetings wrote: post #9

Little bit off topic but is there anyone like me in community having a problem with liking javascript? I have worked with javascript for years but it was always for DOM manipulation. When it comes to building an app with javascript, i feel like it is too fragile to depend on. Anyone can help me to get rid of this feeling?

Any particular reason why you feel like server-side JavaScript feels fragile? Also if by DOM manipulation you mean libraries like jQuery, have you tried more declarative approaches found in frameworks like Angular and React?

Few reasons:

1. Cooperative multitasking. Really? In 2014? Hello?

2. Weakest of weak typing. undefined is not a function? Anyone?

3. Everyone can override everything.

4. Conventions, that's the only way you can build software in JS. Anyone know of a person who doesn't break conventions?

Having programmed in something like Erlang, which IMHO is the sanest technology available today for doing web, JS feels horrible.

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