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Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by biomechanica »

esfandia wrote: post #32
isomorphic wrote: post #8

This sort of thing feeds my paranoia about GitHub being a giant single point of failure in the open-source world. I know the argument: Someone, somewhere has a copy of each repo checked out, so we (the nebulous "we") could reconstruct everything from the diaspora of ".git" directories. It just bothers me to think how dependent OSS has become upon GitHub.

Would a P2P version of GitHub make sense? Each outward-facing local repo would provide a GitHub-like interface for browsing code, submitting PRs etc., and would in addition route repo search requests to neighboring repos using something like a Gnutella protocol.

Well, there was a project called GitChain*; however, it seems that the project is looking for a new leader. Was a very cool idea.

-> http://gitchain.org

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by Twirrim »

isomorphic wrote: post #43
Demiurge wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's paranoia. I think it factually is a single point of failure, which is a bad thing(tm). And GMail is a single point of failure for my (and my companies) e-mail, and that bothers me too, despite the fact that I'm not doing anything about it :)

Google is a giant single point of failure. Others would rush to fill the vacuum, but it'd be a brutal few months (years) while we all relied upon Bing. Is there any GitHub-esque outfit waiting in the wings that provides free OSS hosting?

https://bitbucket.org/

https://www.codebasehq.com/

https://www.fogcreek.com/kiln/

https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/

I must admit, I rather like bitbucket, you can get free private repositories with them too.

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by ttwwmm »

Rendering of reStructuredText disappeared in GitHub Enterprise ~6 months ago... I wonder if the reasoning was the same. More limited resources in the GHE VM environment?

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by smoe »

Twirrim wrote: post #52
isomorphic wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is a giant single point of failure. Others would rush to fill the vacuum, but it'd be a brutal few months (years) while we all relied upon Bing. Is there any GitHub-esque outfit waiting in the wings that provides free OSS hosting?

https://bitbucket.org/ https://www.codebasehq.com/ https://www.fogcreek.com/kiln/ https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/ I must admit, I rather like bitbucket, you can get free private repositories with them too.

I can really recommend the open source gitlab for self hosting repos. I have been running it on a ec2 micro instance for 5-10 people over years without a single problem.

https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by sytse »

Twirrim wrote: post #52
isomorphic wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is a giant single point of failure. Others would rush to fill the vacuum, but it'd be a brutal few months (years) while we all relied upon Bing. Is there any GitHub-esque outfit waiting in the wings that provides free OSS hosting?

https://bitbucket.org/ https://www.codebasehq.com/ https://www.fogcreek.com/kiln/ https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/ I must admit, I rather like bitbucket, you can get free private repositories with them too.

Thanks for mentioning GitLab, we offer unlimited private repo's and collaborators and an on-premises version too.

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by agumonkey »

isomorphic wrote: post #8

This sort of thing feeds my paranoia about GitHub being a giant single point of failure in the open-source world. I know the argument: Someone, somewhere has a copy of each repo checked out, so we (the nebulous "we") could reconstruct everything from the diaspora of ".git" directories. It just bothers me to think how dependent OSS has become upon GitHub.

Should there be a limit on the size of any organ, to avoid this bit bus factor ? Like hierarchies starting to be needed after a group reaches 150 people.

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by conradev »

abhinavg wrote: post #11

I honestly don't see a problem here. They decided to change a backend library for a non-essential system in their product. Most services don't ask for permission or make announcements when they make changes like this. The approach seemed to be, if things break, people will report it and we’ll fix it. While this may not be the best approach, the number of languages supported is too high for a person to check each one…

One other thing to note is that it's not just syntax highlighting, it's also recognizing the language a given repository is written in.

Some of my repositories that use Logos[1] are now incorrectly classified as a combination of Ruby and Scala[2].

[1] http://iphonedevwiki.net/index.php/Logos

[2] https://github.com/conradev/Tweaks

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by isomorphic »

shurcooL wrote: post #48
isomorphic wrote: post #8

This sort of thing feeds my paranoia about GitHub being a giant single point of failure in the open-source world. I know the argument: Someone, somewhere has a copy of each repo checked out, so we (the nebulous "we") could reconstruct everything from the diaspora of ".git" directories. It just bothers me to think how dependent OSS has become upon GitHub.

> GitHub being a giant single point of failure What is our definition of a "point"? If you have an external hard-drive backup of your laptop, that's 2 points of failure, right? If someone else has 10 external hard-drives that they keep in different places, that's 10 points, yes? But what stops you from calling all those hard-drives "a giant single point of failure"? If all of them are destroyed, the data is lost. I j…

By "failure," it never occurred to me to mean a technical or operations failure.

I'm thinking: shut down due to the business model not working, or some other business-model variant, such as gradually getting intolerably crappy like SourceForge. Cash flow isn't great; let's introduce "sponsored" code. Etc.

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by isomorphic »

agumonkey wrote: post #56
isomorphic wrote: post #8

This sort of thing feeds my paranoia about GitHub being a giant single point of failure in the open-source world. I know the argument: Someone, somewhere has a copy of each repo checked out, so we (the nebulous "we") could reconstruct everything from the diaspora of ".git" directories. It just bothers me to think how dependent OSS has become upon GitHub.

Should there be a limit on the size of any organ, to avoid this bit bus factor ? Like hierarchies starting to be needed after a group reaches 150 people.

Well, the current Internet pendulum has swung to nearly the polar opposite of federated services, much to the dismay of my inner software-libre graybeard.

Even a duopoly (!) would be preferable to a single vendor.

Re: GitHub dropped Pygments

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Post by volent »

isomorphic wrote: post #43
Demiurge wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's paranoia. I think it factually is a single point of failure, which is a bad thing(tm). And GMail is a single point of failure for my (and my companies) e-mail, and that bothers me too, despite the fact that I'm not doing anything about it :)

Google is a giant single point of failure. Others would rush to fill the vacuum, but it'd be a brutal few months (years) while we all relied upon Bing. Is there any GitHub-esque outfit waiting in the wings that provides free OSS hosting?

If Google goes down, go with duckduckgo instead of bing please :)
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