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‘Serial,’ Podcasting’s First Breakout Hit, Sets Stage for More

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For some strange reason I thought this was part of Alex Blumberg (also from This American Life)'s Gimlet Media - which he started in August this year, and which he's documenting at http://hearstartup.com . Anyone know if the timing of Serial's debut was co-incidental, or if there's something happening between the two ex-TIL producers that we don't know about?

I would believe coincidental, as Serial is underwritten by TAL, and to my knowledge Koenig is still considered a producer for TAL.

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This seems to be one of a spate of recent articles, e.g. [1]. For a skeptical take, see Marco Arment [2]. Then again, he could just be expressing sour grapes because people with actual skill, money, and time are invading his turf. FWIW, I have listened to a lot of NPR via podcast for many years, and see a podcast-only version of it as a natural step. At this point, the amateur "three nerds and a microphone" stuff is…

It's strange to me that Marco left out Radiotopia's VERY successful latest kickstarter fundraiser, and generally the incredibly high quality content coming out of that program.

And, just weeks before Serial became a breakout hit, the Infinite Guest network launched.

These are both huge leaps forward in providing actual networks for podcasters, publicly funded, and NOT primarily underwritten by a broadcast show.

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I gave them $20. I'm curious how much money in donations Serial can get.

I'm thinking of donating because of how interesting I find it, but for me it will all depend on whether the final resolution is definitive or not. If there's no closure it's going to be the most frustrating experience since Lost for me.

You should probably prepare for disappointment and frustration, then.

I made my gift, but primarily to help them break free of their underwriters, and because the show is incredibly strong journalism and a great look at the way criminal justice works. The details of the case, though incredibly compelling, are a side show to how complicated the whole process is.

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I actively try to avoid 20/20 and Dateline crime mysteries. There are so many of these and they are so engaging, and often without any resolution beyond a "he said, she said". The only conclusion I can draw from them is that crime is often incredibly random and irrational, and everyone has credibility problems, real victims sometimes lie to exaggerate and the justice system is deeply flawed. But I feel that it's disa…

Learning is not only about absorbing discrete facts. Serial has taught me that there is often no objective truth that is discoverable in the real world.

For any real-world event, and for anyone involved, there are always three truths.

1) The truth, as remembered by the person who experienced it.

2) The truth, as reported and written down.

3) The truth, as it happened.

Any overlap with #3 is going to be mostly coincidental.

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A friend and I are exploring some ideas and around next-generation podcasting (and audio entertainment in general). Early prototype stage. There is a lot of room for innovation, and the market is growing--as this article explains. If you're in the SF area and interested in this area, drop me a line.

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This seems to be one of a spate of recent articles, e.g. [1]. For a skeptical take, see Marco Arment [2]. Then again, he could just be expressing sour grapes because people with actual skill, money, and time are invading his turf. FWIW, I have listened to a lot of NPR via podcast for many years, and see a podcast-only version of it as a natural step. At this point, the amateur "three nerds and a microphone" stuff is…

I don't detect any sour grapes. The only part of the narrative he has a problem with is the supposed slump with 2010 being the dark ages of podcasting which somehow needed saving from decline. As slow steady rise isn't dramatic, so a troubled history for podcasting is invented to make it more interesting, which is bull.

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I know this will get me downvoted but I can't understand the fascination with Serial. Overall I found it quite a boring listen. Too many side paths that amount to not much at all, feel like it could have done with a harsh edit. But it's production qualities are high quality and so anything that leads people to create more content at a similar level the better !

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