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JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by orbifold »

at_ wrote: post #48
notastartup wrote: post #16

this was really beautiful. I almost blurted out it was art but then I was forced to remember we can't call computer generated things art by some hidden rule.

A big part of it is framing. If you frame something as a tech demo, that's how it's going to be recieved. 'The Art World' does seem reasonably open to stuff like this, but you really have to go out of your way to make sure people know "hey this is art, please interpret it as an Artwork, here's a chunk of text explaining the conceptual backdrop for this piece, here's how it fits into my wider practice, thank you". But…

I've seen art exhibits that essentially were three LCD screens which displayed a video/computer simulation of paint dripping and mixing. I believe the entry to the art world is just gated enough that who gets to display their "artwork" is much more a question of connections and politics than raw talent.

Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by bane »

notastartup wrote: post #16

this was really beautiful. I almost blurted out it was art but then I was forced to remember we can't call computer generated things art by some hidden rule.

Actually, this competition is part of the Demoscene, which has long been a computer art movement.

Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by rimantas »

Wintamute wrote: post #29
josteink wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Firefox-user (on Linux!) who don't feel like installing Google's closed-source spyware-browser, would you be shocked to hear me chip in and say: I don't care. I don't need my browser to drive full-screen 3D games & demos on my current-laptop hardware. That's not what I (or anyone else) is currently using their browser for. Maybe 5 years from now things will have changed. Maybe then truly everything will be in th…

I'm glad some people care about browser performance, care about creating art and apps that push performance, because without them we won't get to that future where there's a viable, open, free, standards based platform that people can use to challenge the dominance of truly closed source native app platforms. So yes I am shocked to hear that you don't care. And I'm a bit shocked to see you rant at a person that simpl…

You know, nobody stops anyone form making open source native apps.

Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by bojo »

josteink wrote: post #39
bojo wrote: post #38

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You can examine your TCP traffic and verify that Chrome is or isn't doing anything with your data. That's a fact. A lot of security experts out there would be making noise if they discovered that Chrome was phoning home, or doing anything overtly malicious.

So do you not consider sending every keystroke in your address bar spying? I do. http://www.favbrowser.com/google-chrome-spyware-confirmed/ There's probably more, especially with sync enabled, like Google permanently storing your web site history, which cannot be verified from the client alone, because the server sync engine is 100% closed and hosted by Google.

I don't consider it spying when you have the option to turn it off. https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95656?hl=en

Sync is pretty obvious since you clearly have no control over the backend. However, that is a non-issue for someone paranoid enough about where their data goes. Clearly you don't enable it.

I think a healthy dose of paranoia in today's world is fine. I worry a lot about what apps are sending what data where, and whether I have control over that. You, however, seem to just be making blatant claims and touting them as fact. You are part of the problem because you are spouting what amounts to misinformation, and not considering that we have tools available to us with which to verify what an application actually does and whether it is malicious or not.

Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by eli »

andrey-p wrote: post #36
dsl wrote: post #5

You can see all the submissions at http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demos My favorite: http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demo/1868

I really enjoyed playing around with the winner ( http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demo/1903 ), but I'm somehow surprised Highway At Night didn't win. Is there something about the winner's implementation that's particularly amazing?

They're all pretty cool. Maybe bonus points for interactivity?

Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by judk »

jacquesm wrote: post #50
dorgo wrote: post #13

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I doubt that (all) humans think in javascript :P Im sure the brain has its tricks, but they dont need to have something in common with the ones used here. I wonder what Kolmogorov Complexity this program has. Obviously <= 1023.

How does Kolmogorov Complexity deal with the fact that you're specifying that number within a certain execution context (in this case JavaScript)? Otherwise you could simply reduce the program to a single bit and have an interpreter that includes the original program as a primitive. This program without the libraries that it accesses would be a lot larger than it is. Also, shouldn't the number be expressed in bits ra…

There is no absolute complexity scale, for the reason you state. There is only relative complexity within a defined domain.

Re: JS1k demo: “Highway at Night”

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Post by vardump »

sampo wrote: post #32
tormeh wrote: post #15

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Principal component analysis and then ignoring the least important components is the only compression technique I know. Hope it helps.

Well that is a lossy compression, can work nicely to some data (e.g. images), but totally irrelevant in the context of source code compression.

Lossy compression might be just fine for source code, as long as the lossy part is still functionally equivalent.

Think 1000.0 vs 1E3, printf("foo") vs puts("foo"), etc.

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