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The Next Chapter

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Re: The Next Chapter

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I listened to a talk by an Aereo exec at SXSW and he made it clear then that there was no plan B. This was an all or nothing fight. Unfortunately the Supreme Court squashed them, but they really could have changed the world had the ruling gone the other way. ABC, NBC, CBS, and all the other broadcast networks would have had to change their business model and adapt or slowly die like the Blockbusters of the world. Des…

" ABC, NBC, CBS, and all the other broadcast networks would have had to change their business model and adapt or slowly die" But here's the thing. They still have to do that TV viewing is at an all-time low. Broadcast TV has a different business model than Cable, but viewings have been going down for both. Aereo's was too much a bet for too small of a win. "Now you can watch open TV on the internet" Any broadcaster c…

"TV viewing is at an all-time low. Broadcast TV has a different business model than Cable, but viewings have been going down for both."

Kind of. Viewership numbers for individual networks and shows have been declining, but only because there is much more high-quality programming available to watch on cable. Used to be, networks like TBS, AMC, etc. only showed reruns of shows in syndication. Now they produce a significant amount of their own content, adding to the pool of high-quality shows. These shows draw viewers away from the historically "top" networks because TV entertainment is a fully mature /saturated market and thus zero-sum rules apply.

Also, while viewership numbers may look like they're declining overall, it's really because nobody can agree on the best way to measure viewership that is fragmented across the various title VI video services (live, DVR, on demand). People are undisputedly watching more video content than ever, and the vast majority of it comes from cable or broadcast. But it looks like viewership is declining because advertisers and broadcasters can't agree on a consistent measurement and ad sales methodology across the broadcast windows.

Re: The Next Chapter

#52

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In-house is the problem. I don't want 200 separate media apps.

You actually watch 200 TV channels? Also, why would apps be required? If they did this it would probably also work on the web. Take a look at BBC iPlayer/ITV Player/4OD in the UK. On demand and streaming via the web or mobile apps. Works pretty well.

Sure, but for things like tight integration with set-top boxes / consoles / mobile devices, a thick application would be required (unless every device gets magical, stable browsers with good non-desktop UXs), and if each provider creates their own media streams, you'll have enormous fragmentation of experiences and interfaces, as well as software clutter.

Re: The Next Chapter

#53
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One of the things that Ted Turner did was turn WTBS into "The Superstation" by licensing it to cable operators across the country. And the rest is history. I don't know why any broadcaster doesn't make the same move, becoming the "Internet Superstation".

> I don't know why any broadcaster doesn't make the same move, becoming the "Internet Superstation". I'd argue Netflix beat them to the punch when it started creating original, acclaimed content. How many < 30 year olds don't regularly watch TV, but pay monthly for Netflix? I'm one.

I'm the same, no cable subscription, but I have both Netflix and Amazon Prime. However, I do miss slumping down after work and seeing some real-time, curated content like Adult Swim or Stewart / Colbert. It would also be nice to catch some morning news while I'm getting ready, or the occasional baseball game. All those things require real TV, not Netflix, and although I'm happy living without them, people like those kinds of content experiences and they are admittedly nice sometimes when vegging out is the purpose, and you don't want to even make a choice about what you watch.

Re: The Next Chapter

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In-house is the problem. I don't want 200 separate media apps.

In Germany you can watch a lifestream of all the public and some of the private tv stations on their website in HD, more often than not together with some form of interactive chat. They even have a 2 hour time shift function and offer past broadcasts for on demand viewing, subject to some restrictions (After some lobbying by private tv stations the public stations are forced to delete certain content after a some per…

how is that implemented though? In italy basically all tv stations have online broadcasts, and the national TV (RAI) has both streaming and a huge online archive.

You could have watched the olympics and FIFA WorldCup in streaming (if you were in the country) but you'd likely have to use youtube, a custom flash player and silverlight :/

Re: The Next Chapter

#55

While I applaud aereo's challenging of the law and twist on the law to create something. The outcome is correct! I read every day on hacker news; copyright laws are wrong, too long, not fair... I do not see it the same way. The hacker news community is a community who creates many things themselves; many of the community has chosen the path to give open licenses to their creation. This is their right and thankfully t…

Why should the family of Tolkien be compensated forever? What have they done to suddenly be entitled to this?

Also, how does mixing and modifying things damage the original? The original is still there and you can appreciate it without worrying about stuff someone else has done with it. That is specially true in software that's what makes it such a great medium.

Re: The Next Chapter

#57
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That is our inside joke. My fellow redditors will understand.

This isn't Reddit.

Not yet.

Some believe it's their job to "police" other people opinions based on character count and agreement. I believe they are wrong.

Re: The Next Chapter

#58
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Yes, changed the world by making it legal to build a business off someone else's content that you got for free through a legal hack. Tragic it didn't work out. The Blockbuster analogy is frankly insulting to people who built real technology for video delivery. Blockbuster went bankrupt because technology made their middle-man position obsolete. In contrast, there is nothing obsolete about making content. Even in the…

Isn't the content paid for by advertisers in exchange for your eyeballs? Wouldn't Aero increase the eyeballs? Wouldn't the advertisers be happy about more eyeballs? First the engineers run the company, then the marketers, then the finance people, then the lawyers. TV is being run by lawyers.

It's telling that in your list of jobs there you completely left out any of the creative people (writers, directors, actors, etc) that actually make TV shows.

Re: The Next Chapter

#59

While I applaud aereo's challenging of the law and twist on the law to create something. The outcome is correct! I read every day on hacker news; copyright laws are wrong, too long, not fair... I do not see it the same way. The hacker news community is a community who creates many things themselves; many of the community has chosen the path to give open licenses to their creation. This is their right and thankfully t…

You think Tolkien did not borrow? Where do you think the names of half the characters came from?

Our culture would be substantially reduced if we removed all copying.

> there should be no termination to it and his family should profit from it forever.

What purpose would that serve for society?

> We should never take away the rights of the people who create things. If is their choice to give openness to them.

We created those rights out of nothing to begin with. Without artificially created monopoly protections, these people would have no basis for preventing copying. People have the choice not to publish. Yet people willingly published before copyright too.

Those temporary rights were granted as a bargain: We give up the right to copy for some time, in return for hopefully gaining in the form of encouraging more creation of content. As it stands, it seems a lot of us believe that the bargain has been shifted too much in favour of content creators.

Re: The Next Chapter

#60

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In Germany you can watch a lifestream of all the public and some of the private tv stations on their website in HD, more often than not together with some form of interactive chat. They even have a 2 hour time shift function and offer past broadcasts for on demand viewing, subject to some restrictions (After some lobbying by private tv stations the public stations are forced to delete certain content after a some per…

how is that implemented though? In italy basically all tv stations have online broadcasts, and the national TV (RAI) has both streaming and a huge online archive. You could have watched the olympics and FIFA WorldCup in streaming (if you were in the country) but you'd likely have to use youtube, a custom flash player and silverlight :/

In Portugal all the broadcast TV have internet interfaces somewhere, you can point rtmpdump at their servers and watch TV with VLC. It's not a supported thing, just a backdoor to their own flash plugins.
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