Lecture 18: Legal and Accounting Basics for Startups
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Re: Lecture 18: Legal and Accounting Basics for Startups
#32If you are bootstrapping, does it make sense to start as a Delware LLC to keep your tax liability at a minimum and then switch to Delware C Corp when you raise funding?
Re: Lecture 18: Legal and Accounting Basics for Startups
#33If you are bootstrapping, does it make sense to start as a Delware LLC to keep your tax liability at a minimum and then switch to Delware C Corp when you raise funding?
You are not likely to have any tax liability anyways, so it would be easier and probably cheaper to incorporate first. Reformation is a headache.
Re: Lecture 18: Legal and Accounting Basics for Startups
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not likely to have any tax liability anyways, so it would be easier and probably cheaper to incorporate first. Reformation is a headache.
My understanding is that if you form a C Corp, then you have to pay corporation tax and then your personal income tax. With LLC you can avoid that. Probably not an issue if you are paying yourself the minimum salary.
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#35Do people have thoughts about this? It seems to me that this area is generally somewhat opaque, with many people on either side being reluctant to discuss it honestly for various reasons (founders might want employees to think that a pittance is reasonable, employees might embellish when talking to others, etc).
What do you do if you just want to be fair? What do you do differently for employees #1 and #2 vs #10, #20, etc (assuming you ever get that big)? How do you adjust for differences in expected value of the employee to the company (e.g. recent grad vs. senior "executive" type with valuable industry connections)?
When should you allocate an employee equity pool and how do you size it appropriately?
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#36The first slide is ironic. "Keep it simple" by forming a Delaware corporation is advice constantly repeated in some circles and it's simply asinine. The simplest option for founders is to incorporate in the state in which they reside/plan to conduct business as they are going to have to file as a foreign entity in that state anyway. The retort is "But investors won't invest in my California LLC!" The first fact this…
>> ...by forming a Delaware corporation is advice constantly repeated in some circles and it's simply asinine. Do you have a few sources to back up this claim?
Re: Lecture 18: Legal and Accounting Basics for Startups
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
My understanding is that if you form a C Corp, then you have to pay corporation tax and then your personal income tax. With LLC you can avoid that. Probably not an issue if you are paying yourself the minimum salary.
You pay corporate tax on profits. You're not going to have any recognizable, taxable profits if you're bootstrapping a company that will take VC at some point.
Re: Lecture 18: Legal and Accounting Basics for Startups
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
You pay corporate tax on profits. You're not going to have any recognizable, taxable profits if you're bootstrapping a company that will take VC at some point.
Exactly, and salaries are generally deductible as a business expense from the company's income. So you're not getting double-taxed there.