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Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#101
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Have you tried using one of those IDEs written in Java?

IntelliJ uses a totally custom widget toolkit that actually looks great. But yeah, NetBeans isn't especially easy on the eyes.

IntelliJ has very good IDEs. But their IDEs would be even better were they native OS X applications. For example, you can't use the Mac OS X services like "Look up in a dictionary" in IntelliJ.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#102
post #55

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Why do you have text files that are 200MB? Why don't you separate that into multiple files? 200MB of text? Moby Dick is 1MB in plain text. The Holy Bible is like 4MB in plain text. What is in your files? I think you may be doing something wrong.

s/I think you may be/You are/ No single file of source code should ever be even close to 200MB, and no data file (CSV, XML, etc) of that size should be manually edited in a text editor. Wrong tool for the wrong job.

"no data file (CSV, XML, etc) of that size should be manually edited in a text editor"

A new law of the land!

Seriously, tools are meant to solve problems, not to dictate what problems people should solve.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#103
post #95

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Just like with web browsers, I use multiple editors all day long on OS X. Currently open, I have: Sublime 3, Textmate 2, BBEdit 11, Xcode 6, Rubymine 6, and (only because I visited this post and just downloaded it) CotEditor 2. There is certainly a tradeoff in the sense that I don't tend to memorize all the features of every editor, so I may not be as effective in any of them as a power user who sticks to one of them…

I'm curious—why did you switch from Sublime to TextMate? I recently switched from TextMate to Sublime…

Yeah, that surprised a lot of my friends, too (especially considering my 2010 blog post[1] entitled "Mother fuck TextMate to hell").

But it won me over in a few of ways:

1) It's a native Mac app. An honest to goodness, OS X app with native widgets, text Services in the contextual menu, and an all-around attractive UI that works well with just about every OS feature.

2) It's open source now. Even though I haven't yet fixed any of my issues with it... I could.

3) It's got momentum: https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master

All in all it's close though, and I didn't consciously choose to use Textmate 2... I just found myself reaching for it more often.

[1]: http://masonmark.com/mother-fuck-textmate-to-hell/

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#104

This is awesome, but I wish developers would charge for polished, full-featured software like this. The people who made this probably have full-time jobs; meanwhile, independent developers who want to break into this niche now have to compete with "free". This results in a market ruled by large corporations that can "subsidize" free software via the spare time of their employees. Maybe I'm just being too grouchy. Thi…

I agree. Even if they didn't need the money it could be donated to the EFF or something.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#105
The license is GPL v2; you might want to consider using “Version 2 of the GPL or any later version” as GPL v2 is unfortunately incompatible with the Apache license. Also, the GPL v3 is becoming more and more popular nowadays.

This means you could keep the project under GPL v2, but people would have the option of using a later GPL version.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#106
post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

> Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary?

I don't see the point in changing your editor if you don't feel it's necessary. Surely one should gain something from a change of editor...

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#107
post #95

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Just like with web browsers, I use multiple editors all day long on OS X. Currently open, I have: Sublime 3, Textmate 2, BBEdit 11, Xcode 6, Rubymine 6, and (only because I visited this post and just downloaded it) CotEditor 2. There is certainly a tradeoff in the sense that I don't tend to memorize all the features of every editor, so I may not be as effective in any of them as a power user who sticks to one of them…

BBEdit's multi-file search and replace (and it's compare) alone are worth it. I keep coming back to BBEdit for search and replace, even if I prefer other editors for other things. I use a lot of different editors too, rotating among favorites. The one thing I do not consistently use are modal keyboard-centric editors like vim and emacs. I get that some people like them, but they've never done much for me. (And yes, I…

> The one thing I do not consistently use are modal keyboard-centric editors like vim and emacs.

As a vim-er and not an Emacs-er, asking genuinely and not out of snark, surely Emacs is eminently non-modal (at least, not modal in the same way that vim is)?

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#108
post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

> Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I don't see the point in changing your editor if you don't feel it's necessary. Surely one should gain something from a change of editor...

He already mentioned it kinda: flexibility

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#109
post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

My original reason for learning vim was so that I could be effective when shelled into a box. I quickly became much more productive with it than any other text editor I tried to use after. Atom caught my attention, but I would up installing the vim bindings and eventually switching back.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

#110
recently I replaced OSX on my macbook to Ubuntu and I'm very pleased for the following reasons:

1. better key shortcuts: no hassle to maximize, windows ninja moves without additional software, can do every UI operation with keyboard (most common with cmd+num run/bring back app), fn + arrow works as cmd+arrow on osx, same key shortcuts, UI on all desktops I use everyday

2. easier software install: apt vs brew (ex. installing postgres was pain in ass for me recently on osx)

3. no OSX maximize button madness

4. default file manager is much better on Ubuntu (eg. easy way to modify current path with ctrl+l)

5. same dev machine OS as production - no additional steps for docker (boot2docker etc)

6. sublime works great

Ubuntu has good support for my (non-retina) macbook 2012 (no driver problems at all!)

All this on default Ubuntu installation - no special tweak (except enabling mac WIFI driver in UI driver configurator) - so it just works.

I do understand someone likes OSX specific UI etc. but for me Linux (Ubuntu) matured enough to be better dev machine than OSX

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