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Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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When I help people out with their computers and I run updates (pretty much everyone I go to stay with!) they always complain if there's been a change in the UI at all - "why's that button moved?" "where's my favourites?" "how do I access my inbox now?" "why does it keep popping up that thing?" ... I'd really like to see some respect for this from people like Firefox - "we won't move any major UI elements or update th…

I couldn't disagree more. Of course there no sense in moving things around just for the sake of changing something, and implementing those design changes is always prone to making bad decisions. However I pretty much want the applications I use to move forward and if this means iterative design adjustments, then by all means, do it. The people complaining about any kind of change are usually the ones who learn using…

No, it's not a better idea to "educate users" it is rather to respect the users. Imagine when your car would change the controls on random mornings. People want the work done like you just want to drive. Don't project your untypical preferences to the others.

I'm almost sure that if you're a serious programmer you use a command line. You know, where you type in one line, the output is written in the following lines, emulating the electrically-controlled typewriter which prints the letter one after the another on the roll of the paper from the sixties. Think about that. "Carriage return" once actually caused the physical carriage to return and the line feed actually activated the paper feeder to roll the paper one line up.

A lot of changes in the UI are often driven more by the changes in the politics inside of the company (who is going to be seen for his visible contribution to the "change") than any real need. Think about that.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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Does anyone use pin unlock on their phones? With lollipop you now have to swipe the screen just to get to the pin unlock. That's an entire extra gesture that serves absolutely no purpose but to take an extra .5 seconds from my life every time I unlock my phone.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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Agreed. Some more venting... Calendar is now rubbish, month view is gone, schedule view is too limited and there's way to much whitespace and 'fat' place cards. Got multiple Google accounts? You can't remove the 'events' calendar. And 'Events' is ostensibly the first calendar in your actual online Google Calendar which you might have named 'Home' but in the app is steadfastly refuses to be called anything but 'events…

While we're on the topic: Clock - I used to be able to dismiss my 7:30 wakeup alarm if I woke up at 7:20 by simply swiping away the notification. But now I can't find any way to suppress the next instance of a recurring alarm.

I've been happy with Alarm Clock Plus as my wake up alarm. has the ability to set an alarm on some days of the week, and the "skip next" feature.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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> why is removing the key separators a good idea? // I've a suggestion for this one - key separators support a paradigm of key presses , following the [traditional] keyboard metaphor. However with swipe-able keyboards it doesn't really make sense, you only need to approximate the position of the letter during your swipe - no "barriers" helps to enforce that new paradigm. If most people swipe, then it makes sense to m…

Yes but swiping does not work particular well if the words you use are not in the dictionary already.

What fraction of the words you type are not in the dictionary? Why not revert to tap-typing for just those words and use the faster method for the dictionary words?

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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I have the opposite experience. I liked the maps that came with my phone a year and a half ago. It keeps getting upgraded. I lost the zoom buttons (pinch to zoom is very dangerous when driving, so basically a major feature loss for me). And recently the whole thing goes so slowly on my older phone that I have usually found the destination before the phone has managed to load the screen. Recently I founds that I can u…

You can zoom with one hand by double tapping and then sliding down or up on your second tap.

Well thats pretty much what the article boils down to. How am I expected to know that. The interface changed, the buttons were gone. And only now do I find out about a gesture to do the same thing.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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The problem is that if you swipe left it will open the dialer, right photo. Only up unlocks it. While it's useful having shortcuts to do these things, they've gone far too far and made it too hard to do what you most often want to do, which is simply unlock the phone. The old photo button worked well, for example. They had also previously used "up" on the lock screen for voice commands/google now, so I for one have l…

I still don't see how that's bad. My current lock screen, a custom one, only unlocks if I swipe right. Not up, not down, not left. Swiping left would open the camera. There's no easy way for me to get to the dialer straight from my current lock screen. From the way you describe it, Lollipop's lock screen sounds great to me. Full notification list, the ability to interact with the notifications, the ability with a sin…

The issue is the previous lock screen didn't require any swipes to enter your unlock pattern. They added a step, making the most common gesture slower than it was before.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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> There are a bunch of new ‘transitions’ between elements. I don’t know what the battery cost actually is for this, but as a user I just don’t care about cute transitions between elements. I want fast interaction with my mobile device.

In other words, UI animations are literally a waste of time. To hell with the battery, the user's time is the most valuable resource, period.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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Yosemite should be the case study right behind Windows 8 on how not to change a UI. Spotlight is horrible and harder to use (pop up away from mouse, UI smaller and harder to click). I still want to have a transcript from the meeting that decided the tabs on Safari should now "scrunch" to the right of the active tab instead of all the way to the right. It makes selecting the next tab without closing the current tab a…

You don't like the new Safari tabs? Have you tried using your trackpad or mouse wheel to scroll them horizontally? To me, it's the best solution out of all the browsers. Firefox has a scrolling list, but all the tabs are the same size so they go off the screen. Chrome shrinks tabs down until they're illegible. Safari kind of does both, but you can spread them out in an analog way just by using your mouse. To me, it f…

The scrolling is interesting, but it scrunches the tabs on the left as I add them and then I have extra actions to go to the first tab I opened. I see no purpose in this behavior.

Re: Stop Changing UIs for No Good Reason

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Does anyone use pin unlock on their phones? With lollipop you now have to swipe the screen just to get to the pin unlock. That's an entire extra gesture that serves absolutely no purpose but to take an extra .5 seconds from my life every time I unlock my phone.

yep, this is my primary annoyance with the new update
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